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World War Two / Re: Identify Force and date please
« on: Thursday 06 February 14 19:17 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you everyone, much for me to think about and research more.

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World War Two / Re: Identify Force and date please
« on: Tuesday 04 February 14 21:30 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks everyone. I asked my dad (who has the picture) to do a close up of the cap and I'm afraid this is the best he came up with. I've looked at the cap badges with a magnifying glass on the original image and to be honest it's not very clear even in person.




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World War Two / Identify Force and date please
« on: Friday 31 January 14 16:31 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, This is an unknown person from a collection of family photos. If I could identify which force (army/navy/airforce) from the outfit and cap I might be able to work out who he is. Even better if it gets narrowed down to a regiment etc.

I'm assuming it's around WW2 but if anybody could confirm that for me that would be fantastic.

Thanks.

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Hi!

There is a George HENRY Coote registered in December quarter 1858 in Bethnal Green, 1c 269. There are however a couple of marriages in that area of George Henry Coote as well, so may not be him. You don't mention whether he was married before Lucy?



Hi! Not sure that the George Henry Coote in Bethnal Green is correct - on familysearch there is a census entry for 1871 that includes George H Coote, 12, born Bethnal Green. Parents are George and Charlotte. Think that might rule out that birth.

Toffee  :)

That's useful to know, thanks toffee :)

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From the marriage register St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey

August the something, there is no date, 1880 (the previous entry is August 2nd)

John James Coote, 40, widower, Butcher, of ? Place, Snows Fields, father William Coote, Carpenter

Ann Evans, 28, spinster, of 147 Snows Fields, father William Evans, Farmer

John James signed his name with a flourish, Ann made her mark
witnesses: John R? and Elizabeth Evans

That's fantastic, thanks Dawn

Some of the Westminster baptisms have been transcribed and put online=, I had a look for your family but there are 2 other Coote families in the area at the same time, James & Eleanor (he's a sweep) and Charles & Charlotte (he's a plumber).

Remember that although civil registration started in 1837 it wasn't compulsory for births to be registered so there may not be births to find. The ones you identified earlier may belong to the other families.

Re marriages

26 April 1857 St Mary Magdalene Woolwich
James Coote, full age, bachelor, Porter of Callis Alley, father William Coote, labourer
(fathers occupation and James signature don't match 1880 entry)

27 Feb 1859, Bermondsey, Father = Mark, a dyer, signature doesn't match

28 July 1861, Chelsea, James is a baker as is his father James

I couldn't easily see the others, they may not be Anglican marriages.

Anyway hope this helps.

Dawn

I had forgotten that registration wasn't compulsory. I seem to recall that at one time if you purchased the certificates from the local Record Office they would only send them if the parents details matched. A quick google tells me this is no longer always the case, which is a shame.

Thanks for your help, much appreciated.

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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: COMPLETED - Baptism - John J Coote, Shalford
« on: Monday 09 September 13 17:59 BST (UK)  »
He goes by the name James in later life. I'm trying to establish whether James and John James are one and the same. Thanks.

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1851 Census
Living at Binley, Kingscote, Gloucestershire

Richard Nicholls / 35 / Ag Lab / Oldbury, Glos
Sarah Nicholls / 33 / Ag Lab / Horsley, Glos
Elizabeth Nicholls / 9 / Scholar / Pinkney, Glos
Henry Nicholls / 7 / Scholar / Pinkney, Glos
Eliza Nicholls / 5 / Scholar / Kingscote, Glos
Anne Nicholls / 3 / Scholar / Kingscote, Glos


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What I have so far is that John/James, son of William & Mary Ann, lived in Shalford, Essex up until after 1851. In the 1851 census his occupation in Shalford was Groom, so I am assuming for now that when he moved up to the big city he took whatever work was available Porter/Packer, and either moved onto Horses or George thought that sounded better than Butcher.

I will, as funds allow, try to get all the certificates that have been located so far, especially as getting any of the birth certs will give me a surname for Mary Ann as well as the occupation of John/James. I shall start with John James b. 1863 I think.

I have looked for a marriage but with no success so far. These are the ones I think are currently possibles:
Q. Jun 1857 - Greenwich - James Coote & Mary Reynolds
Q. Jun 1858 - Mile End - John Coote & Mary Ann Smith
Q. Mar 1859 - Bermondsey - James Coote & Mary Ann Walker
Q. Mar 1861 - St Luke - James Coote & Mary Ann Sarah Free
Q. Jun 1861 - Hackney - James Coote & Mary Fearchild
Q. Sep 1861 - Chelsea - James Coote & Mary Ann Francis

The 2 most likely registration districts are St James Westminster & Braintree but searching just those doesn't bring up anything that I can see as possibles.

I wouldn't put it past them not to have got married just to make my life even more difficult to be honest.

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Living just round the corner. How did I miss that! Thank you so much.

I think I have enough for now as I can't see any obvious holes in the theory. Will see about getting some certificates to fill in the blanks.


Many thanks to all who helped. It just shows how vital it can be to have new eyes look.

Will mark as completed but if anyone comes along in the future with new/conflicting info and/or a connection to these people then please do get in touch. Thanks again  :)

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