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Lancashire / St Johns Churh Bolton Rd the Height. Missing Gravestones
« on: Saturday 07 July 18 01:11 BST (UK)  »
When I first started my family history search in the 1990s I used various FH Sites/Forums and on one someone wrote that in the late 1960s/early 1970s the River Irwell was Diverted and the loop at the top St Simon Steet cut out, whilst this work was taking place a large number of grave stones were found in the river and that they all came from St Johns Churh Bolton Rd the Height,Salford. not realising at that time how many of my  relatives are buried there.
After many online searches I cannot find which forum it was or anything online related to the removal of the grave stones.
Can anyone help, What I would like to know is were records of the stones taken after finding them or any photos taken and who autherised the  removal

Geoff

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Lancashire / St Johns Church, Pendlebury/Irlam o`th Height/Pendleton/Salford
« on: Sunday 08 March 15 00:00 GMT (UK)  »
Not sure where to put this but hope someone can help.Sometime last year I found a posting concerning Headstones from St Johns Church, Pendlebury which were uncovered during work on the diversion of the River Irwell in the Saint Simon St, Sussex St, Springfield Lane, area of Salford,(Which is a fair way from St Johns, Pendlebury} The work took place in the late 60s early 70s, I cannot remember the forum it was that I found the post, but searches on the 3 forums I use came up blank, and no luck with general searches for "River Irwell diversion" or "St Johns Church, Pendlebury missing Headstones" If anyone can help with either these events I would be very grateful.

Regards

Geoff

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LizzieW
Hi, Your suggestion that it may be their prefered Church makes sense now I Know where Eltoft St is as its just outside Salford near Deangate and Regent Rd, and just a "cockstride" away from their home,
Thank You


gortonboy
Wonderful find! Im on Ancestry but I think I can access findmypast. at my Library
Thank You


heywood
Sorry! I meant Broughton Salford for their births not Mulgrave st, Nora St was Cornelius and Roses home and Cornelius was in South Africa at this time
Thank You


heatherjulie
Thanks, but no Timothy Devine in Rose Anns Family


ele002
Hi, these 2 Baptisms of John and Olive (my Grandmother) are the oniy connection my family have with St Matthews, is this a Catholic Church?. Cornelius Langshaws Family were from Bolton and most BMDs took place at St Georges or St Peters, Bolton, Rose Anns Father Thomas Devine may have been a Catholic but not a lot of info or BMDs for the Family
Thank You


sallyyorks
Hi, My original thoughts about why Cornelius used St Matthews are now fading given the short distance from the Church in Deansgate and his home in Lower Brougton Salford
Thank You



stanmapstone
Hi, Thanks for the link,
Thank You



Thank you to everyone for your help

Regards

Geoff

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HI heywood,
Cornelius's family moved from Bolton to Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, where he was born around 1862 and apart from 2 brothers who stayed all the family moved to Manchester and are on the 1881 census,
so Cornelius has relatives in Manchester but that does not explain why the address on the Baptisms is Eltoft St, when his home was Mulgrave St Salford, and ALL his children were born there, That is why I think it must have something to do with his work as a Police Constable and was transfered. I looked at the Eltoft St 1911 census and no connection with the family living there apart from one son born in Salford but that was in the Regent Rd area
Thak you
Geoff

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Sorry heatherjulie, only just noticed your question in your 2nd reply.
Cornelius joined the army sometime before 1890 and in the 1891 census is based at Frimley,Farnham,Aldershot,Basinstoke,Hampshire as an Acting Bombardier, with the Royal Horse Artillery. He left just before 1900 and joined Salford Police but a short time later was Recalled to Colours and went to South Africa. Not really been able to find much about his Army or Police careers.
Geoff

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Hi, heatherjulie
Thanks for the rapid response, Yes thats my family, my problem is why they are in manchester in 1911 when their home is in Salford, I can only think its linked to Cornelius's work as a Salford Constable but can find no event or  emergency at that time which would involve movement of Police.
Thanks for your heip.
Geoff

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My GGrandfather Cornelius Langshaw b1864 in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, Married Rose Ann Devine in 1894 Salford, They had 7 children all born in Salford, but never able to find any Baptism records for them until recently when I found 2 Baptisms both on the same day
at St Matthews, Manchester on 29 Nov 1911, Olive born Dec 1905 and John born Aug 1911, But living at 6 Eltoft St, Manchester. I know the family moved into 25 Mulgrave St, Lwr Broughton, Salford, Lancashire between 1901 and 1911 when they appear on the 1911 Census,
and the family lived there untill demolition in the 1970s.
My GGrandfather was a Police Constable in Salford, Could he have been transfered to Manchester because of a special event or Emergency that was taking place in Manchester
if so, what!

Regards

Geoff

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Limerick / Patrick Ryan b1839 Killonan, Limerick, Ireland
« on: Saturday 07 June 14 19:34 BST (UK)  »
Patrick is my GGGrandfather and I would like to try and find Patricks Birth/Baptism and any history of his Parents.

All I new about Patrick was based on the 1881 UK Cenus and as he died in 1890 in Salford, Lancashire
there was not much to go on, son Stephen was born in Canada 1863 and daughter Elizabeth in East India
1874,
But thanks to Rootschats Canada forum and  Armed Forces forum, I now have his marriage in Ontario, Canada. and his enlistment in the 1st Battalion 17th Foot regiment in Ireland 1857. Plus Stephens Baptism
in 1863

ENLISTMENT Ireland
Patrick Ryan, 1 Battalion 17th Foot regiment, born Killonan, Limerick circa August 1839. Attested 1857.  Served in North America roughly 1859-1866,  India 1871-1878. Discharged on return to UK in January 1879.  Was in Quebec in 1859.

MARRIAGE St PatrickS in Quebec City. Canada 17 Nov  1863

Patrick Ryan, born Killonan, Limerick August 1839.
Parents Edmund Ryan and Johanna Ryan of County Limerick.

Bridget Flannery b1835 in Clare, Ireland,
parents, Daniel Flannery and Louise Gledson of County Clare,

STEPHEN BAPSISM St PatrickS in Quebec City. Canada
born 26 Dec 1863 and baptized on the 28th

Thank you
Geoff Ryan

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Armed Forces / Re: Not sure I have the correct Forum!!!
« on: Saturday 07 June 14 00:16 BST (UK)  »
Sorry Shaun, Going through the post again and only just noticed your NOT km1971 (Ken) think I went a bit giddy when I read your post, great find, Thanks again to both you and Ken for your heip.

Geoff

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