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Roxburghshire / Re: sunlaws, do you know where?
« on: Friday 26 October 18 14:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi Terianne,

Nice to meet you, cousin :) Your 3 x great William was the younger brother of my 4 x great John. Sunlaws seemed to feature quite prominently in the lives of the Lillicos. It must have been a major employer of people in the local area.


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Roxburghshire / Re: sunlaws, do you know where?
« on: Saturday 04 August 18 00:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lesley,

Oh my goodness, that's amazing! The baby Elizabeth referred to is my great-great-grandmother, born 17 September 1856. It's possible her mother Margaret gave birth to her at Sunlaws. The earliest record I have of the Lillicos actually living on the estate is the 1871 census and it appears they stayed there until William and Margaret's deaths in the 1890s.

It must have been very difficult making a living as a gardener during the winter months. I imagine William would have done general labouring work wherever he could find it. I feel sad thinking of them trying to eke out a life in a miserable little cottage with their four girls. The birth record of their seventh child, William, states he was born at Sunlaws Lodge, so it looks like they were settled there by then.

Colin Cumming of North Berwick in East Lothian, a fellow descendant of William and Margaret Lillico, has told me that his grandmother (Isabella Mather, born 1873, daughter of Jane Mather, nee Lillico) spoke of going on holidays to Sunlaws Estate, where her grandfather (ie William) was head gardener.

I can tell you what became of Elizabeth... she did indeed thrive. In September 1872, at just 16, she married Andrew Dryden, a domestic coachman, in Kelso. In 1883, they migrated to Queensland, Australia, with four of their five children (2-year-old son James died of measles while the ship was quarantined off the coast at Townsville and he was buried on Magnetic Island), arriving in Townsville on 24 October. They settled in Brisbane and had seven more children (poor Elizabeth!) She died on 18 December 1904, aged 48.

Thank you very much for this information, Lesley.

Regards,

Rachel

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Roxburghshire / Re: sunlaws, do you know where?
« on: Friday 03 August 18 12:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi Robert et al,

Thanks so much for posting about the history of the Sunlaws estate. My great-great-grandfather William Lillico worked as a gardener, apparently in later life the head gardener, at Sunlaws from the 1870s till the 1890s. He and his wife Margaret died at "Sunlaws East Lodge" in 1898 and 1896 respectively. It was very interesting to read about the property's history.

Regards,

Rachel
Brisbane, Qld, Australia

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Fermanagh / Re: Searching for Beacom families
« on: Saturday 16 August 14 01:40 BST (UK)  »
I've found out more about my Beacoms since I last posted...

John Beacom and Rebecca Mitchell married at Magheracross Parish Church, Ballinamallard, Fermanagh on 5 May 1829. Their children were Mary (bap 11 Apr 1830), Isabella (bap 20 Apr 1832) (my great-great-grandmother), Edward (bap 15 June 1834), Andrew (bap 4 Sep 1836), Jane (bap 15 Aug 1839) and Margaret (bap 18 Dec 1842).. all in Kilskeery, Co. Tyrone. They lived at Glassmullagh, Kilskeery, Co. Tyrone. John's parents were Edward and Isabella Beacom.

Lots of info can be found at the Fermanagh Gold and Ireland Genealogy Projects websites.

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Fermanagh / Re: BEACOM/BACOM/BACON - Enniskillen
« on: Thursday 07 August 14 06:57 BST (UK)  »
My great-great-grandmother was Isabella Beacom, she was baptised 20 April 1832 , daughter of John Beacom and Rebecca Mitchell. She was from Kilskeery, Co. Tyrone but her parents were married in Magheracross Parish Church, Ballinamallard, Co. Fermanagh.. about 7 km from Enniskillen. Isabella had five siblings.. Mary (b1830), Edward (b1834), Andrew (b1836), Jane (b1839), Margaret (b1842). I believe John's parents were Edward and Isabella Beacom.

Isabella and her sisters Jane and Margaret migrated to Australia in 1864. I think Margaret may have returned to Ireland as she's recorded as marrying John King in Co. Tyrone in 1874.

As Kilskeery, Co. Tyrone borders on Fermanagh, I think my Beacom ancestors were from both counties.

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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Lees / Llys House
« on: Tuesday 17 September 13 14:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jeannette,

I've just found out that my 3 x great-grandmother Tryphena Owen and her siblings were living at Llys House in Oswestry when she was a teenager. They're listed there in the 1841 England Census when she was 15 years old. Unfortunately I know nothing more about the house.

Cheers, Rachel

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Australia / Re: Convict ancestry?
« on: Friday 28 June 13 06:01 BST (UK)  »
I'm lucky enough to have a few convicts ancestors... My 6 x great-grandmother was Elizabeth Cole, a First Fleet convict from Devon, convicted of stealing "a woman's stuff gown" valued at 7 shillings and other goods valued at 5 pounds and 9 shillings, and sentenced to 7 years. Her future husband and my 6 x great-grandfather was Richard Cornelius Burrows, a Second Fleet convict, who was given a death sentence for sheep stealing but commuted to 7 years. Their daughter Ann Burrows, my 5 x great-grandmother, married Sylvester Lush, also convicted of sheep stealing and given a death sentence commuted to life, transported on the "Calcutta" and part of the first group of settlers and convicts who founded Hobart. Ann and Sylvester's daughter Sarah Lush, my 4 x great-grandmother, married James aka John Fisk who was convicted of stealing and sentenced to 14 years. After Sylvester passed away, Ann married John Vale, convicted of stealing and given a life sentence but was a free man by the time they married. Ann's other daughter Ann Elizabeth Lush also married a convict, John Hollman.

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Australia / Re: FREEGARD family in Australia
« on: Sunday 21 April 13 03:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Marlene et al,

I've researched my hubby David's Freegard family.. his great-great-grandparents were John Freegard (1848-1903) and Katharine Freeth (1847-1922). Their daughter Alice Maud Freegard (1877-1975) was his great-grandmother. I didn't know their son Garnet migrated to Australia as well, so thanks for that info. Alice married William Charles Weeks (1878-1949) in 1899, they migrated to Australia c1900 and lived at Taabinga, near Kingaroy, in Queensland. Alice died and was buried there, William died and was buried in Brisbane.

I've attached a photo of John and Katharine's headstone in St Martin's churchyard, Bremhill, Wiltshire. Also attached is that of John's parents' Thomas Freegard (c1811-1879) and Margaret (c1817-1856) (nee Matthews), John's grandfather John Freegard (1764-1837), and great-great-grandmother Elizabeth Freegard (nee ??) (c1697-1767) and her son John (1727-1757) (modern text superimposed over faded inscription). John Freegard's inscription reads..

"Sacred to the memory of / JOHN FREEGARD / Who departed this life / 17th February 1837 aged / 73 years / Mourn not dear wife at my decease / hope with God is made in peace."

So my hubby's line is.. Alice Maud Freegard -> John Freegard & Katharine Freeth -> Thomas Freegard (c1811-1879) + Margaret Matthews (c1817-1856) -> John Freegard (1764-1837) + Elizabeth Wilkins (c1768-1859) -> James Freegard (1725-1799) + Susannah Hill (c1732-1794) -> George Freegard (c1699-1770) + Elizabeth ? (c1697-1767)  All the Freegard men from Bremhill, Wiltshire. Their wives: Katharine Freeth, born Burghclere, Hampshire; Margaret Matthews, born Tockenham, Wiltshire; Elizabeth Wilkins, born White Cleeve, Wiltshire; Susannah Hill, born Berwick St John, Wiltshire.

Rachel

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Australia / Re: Death in Mildura VIC 1899- Edward Mostyn THELWELL
« on: Tuesday 05 February 13 11:44 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Gen, Cando, Kim et al

Well, what a fascinating thread! I knew nothing at all about Edward Mostyn Thelwell or that he ended up in Mildura. I always assumed that Tryphena was the only one in the family who migrated here to Australia.

I'm Tryphena Mostyn Owen and John Tanner's great-great-great-granddaughter. I have learnt heaps of information about the Mostyn family, being as well-documented and influential as they were. Only today I discovered that Tryphena's brother Edward Mostyn Owen married Mary Susan Parker, daughter of Marianne Darwin (sister to Charles) and Henry Parker. And of course Tryphena's cousin Fanny was Charles' love interest before he set sail on the Beagle. They sure were an interesting family!

I haven't read through all this thread in detail yet.. look forward to knowing more about my colourful distant cousin :-)

Cheers, Rachel

PS Note that the death index entry for Tryphena Tanner (nee Mostyn Owen) quoted above is wrong. Her mother (and Edward's grandmother) was Elizabeth Sophia Hinchliffe. Tryphena's granddaughter Ruth Belton was the informant on her death certificate and managed to botch it right up!

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