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Perthshire / Re: McIntosh-Cramb-Carruthers in Dunblane, Scotland
« on: Sunday 22 December 13 10:40 GMT (UK)  »
David got this census its seaforth highlanders but age etc look good for Alexander McKay.
Donald

Hello Donald, thanks for taking the time, sometimes the best discoveries happen that way.  In some ways it would fit him, but I don't believe this one is him.  His d.o.b. is 10 June 1869 in 7 Smiths Lane, Nairn, Scotland.  This one below however looks convincingly like him, includes his middle initial, and his decorations.   National Archves 1914-1918 Medal Roll. My gr-grandfather (Corps: Cameronians Scottish Rifles) oral testimony says he won the DCM twice (DCM and Bar), the first in the Boer War and the Second in WW1.

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Perthshire / Re: McIntosh-Cramb-Carruthers in Dunblane, Scotland
« on: Thursday 19 December 13 15:07 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
still in Scotland near Falkirk.The whole trip to USA was very good.
Donald

Okay thanks, was just wondering if you were also over here.  I try to get home to see my parents every year.  This year was tricky for us though because my wife's mother passed on, we had a probate issue here in Texas with her passing, and her house to sort out.  Which was, and still is, an ongoing legal nightmare for the last half of the year, we're still in the middle of that lot and still kind of hoping that the loose ends might be tied up for the New Year.  Then there's the house, it was her grandparents home and they'd lived there since 1946, so the house is filled with 75+ years of stuff to go through (mostly junk).  Don't even ask me what's up in that attic!  ;D So I've had to put my trip aside to the Spring 2014.  My parents are up in years now, although in good health, so it's good for me to get back and see them every year.  Great hearing from you.  Best wishes to your mother, and your family.  :)

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Perthshire / Re: McIntosh-Cramb-Carruthers in Dunblane, Scotland
« on: Thursday 19 December 13 13:39 GMT (UK)  »
Hi David
We loved San Antonio.We had toured from Nashville,Memphis and New Orleans.
The photo is sons Johnny and Donald with my dad as a baby along with Christine the mother.My Dad died 1998 and your dad was at the funeral ,your parents were at my wedding and my 25th wedding anniversary,my mum still sends and receives cards at xmas from them.
Donald

Sounds like a great trip you had, we've driven to New Orleans a few times, it's a fascinating place, in fact we took a week long cruise down the Mississippi from there before Katrina on a steam boat (for our honeymoon), when they still did that from there.  The best hotel we stayed at over there was an art decor place (1920's) called The Monaco, the hurricane practically wiped that out of existence.  It's not there anymore.  Last time we stayed at the W, nice hotel but hardly the charm and grace of the Monaco!  So have strong feelings for the city, knowing it before and after the hurricane.  1998, was it really that far back?  My parents still get around okay, my Dad's okay most day's but his memory is not as it was, he forgets a lot of stuff these days. I've noticed.  Where is it you live now, if you don't mind me asking?  Scotland?  Just wondering about your trip if you are in fact state-side?  :)  Just off the phone to my parents a few minutes ago.  Sure enough they have a card from your mother!  :)  Their first card every year comes from her.

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Perthshire / Re: McIntosh-Cramb-Carruthers in Dunblane, Scotland
« on: Thursday 19 December 13 01:27 GMT (UK)  »
thanks david
I was on holiday in San Antonio in May which may still have been a distance from yourself.
attached photo .my dad as a baby with brothers Johnny and Donald with their mum.
Donald

That's a pity, we'd have made the drive over to meet you, would have given us the perfect excuse to go to our favourite place (Garner).  San Antonio, is a very cool place to visit.  It's not too bad a drive from here (Houston) but worthwhile for the Alamo and the river walk.  We pass through it pretty often (at night though taking advantage of the long empty roads when we go camping) on the way to Garner State Park, which is another 90 miles from there.  :)  Great picture, looking at it now, thanks.  So just to be sure, this would be John Morrison and Christina-Ann, and the children would be Johnny and Donald and Tommy as the baby?  My Dad went to a Morrison funeral two or three years back, think it might have been Tommy Morrison's, am I right here?

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Perthshire / Re: McKay Perthshire
« on: Wednesday 18 December 13 15:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all - have another McKay problem  ::)

Have two marriage certs:- and can't figure them out

1) Maggie McIntosh McKay age 20 married Daniel McIntosh at Dunblane 31 Dec 1900 parents for Maggie given as Alexander McKay occupation mason and Helen McKay nee (I can't read it very well) Bayole ( or something like that) now according to the census Maggie was the daughter of Peter and Agnes McIntosh, but knowing their proclivity for claiming parentage (they claimed my grandmother Charlotte as adopted daughter) and Daniel is their son..we can't have sons marrying daughters..now can we.

2) Christina Ann McIntosh married Alexander McKay at Dunblane in 1902 parents for Alexander are Alexander McKay occupation builder and Helen McKay nee (this time it looks like) Bain.  The bridegroom is either 21/31 and is in the Cameron Highlanders usual adds Fort George.

What I am trying to figure out is whether Maggie and Alexander are brother and sister ???? suppose they would have to be  ??? I did a search for marriage on SP and came up with one at Inverness for Alexander and Helen Bain ?? the writing is very faint so am not sure. Can't find anything on IGI nor Ancestry nor can I find any death details for Alexander or Helen.

Hope this makes sense..please help..why on earth would the McIntosh's claim her as daughter and why..patvp

Dear Pat, yes it was a McIntosh brother and sister married to a McKay brother and sister.  Which made their children their own first cousins, if that makes sense!  The surname is definitely Bain.  I have taken that line back quite a bit and visited the home of Alexander McKay at 7 and 9 smith's Lane in Nairn (b. abt 1844 in Holine/Holme inverness).  He recorded children at both homes, I realised when I got there that the houses had been knocked into one at some point.  It's still there.  Helen Bain was the daughter of Donald Bain and Helen Sandiman.  I've traced the Bains to a couple of generations before that, the Sandimans are found in Dundee (if memory serves).  Although there could be an error in the marriage certificate since oral testimony always said he was a Cameronian (Scottish Rifles), rather than a Cameron Highlander.  Medal role would seem to agree he was awarded an honor as Alexander R. McKay states clearly Cameronians (Scottish Rifles).  It was common for soldiers to find themselves in other regiments however.  So anything is really possible.  I was up at Fort George a couple of years back with my Dad who was a Seaforth Highlander at Fort George.  Parents of Alexander are Kenneth McKay b. Redcastle abt 1822 and Jane Ross daughter of Adam Ross and Jane Cameron in Killearnan, Ross-shire, Jane lived close to Nairn at the time of her marriage.  I get to Nairn every couple of years so know the area quite well.

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Perthshire / Re: McIntosh-Cramb-Carruthers in Dunblane, Scotland
« on: Wednesday 18 December 13 13:32 GMT (UK)  »
Actually here it is, I'd forgotten that I'd cropped that photo of Christina Ann McIntosh out of this original so I could use it on my ancestry.com page.  So here is a copy of the photograph.  It's Christina Ann and my grandmother Agnes Cramb McKay.

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Perthshire / Re: McIntosh-Cramb-Carruthers in Dunblane, Scotland
« on: Wednesday 18 December 13 12:54 GMT (UK)  »
Christina Ann McIntosh, photo was taken in Ashfield.  I'm sure I have another photo with her and my grandmother Agnes Cramb McKay.  Have to search for that though, it was a photo taken of a photo, so it would be on a cd some place in the apartment.   :)  Sharing these images is good, since it let's all the family have them.  If I turn up anything else I will definitely post them.

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Perthshire / Re: McIntosh-Cramb-Carruthers in Dunblane, Scotland
« on: Wednesday 18 December 13 01:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Donald, fantastic photographs.  I'll get these to my old Dad who'll be excited to see them.  My Dad incidentally is 'Alastair' Wilson, son of Agnes Cramb McKay & James Wilson, and brother to Ina Craig.
 

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Perthshire / Re: McIntosh-Cramb-Carruthers in Dunblane, Scotland
« on: Tuesday 17 December 13 00:42 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Donald, I don't know where my head was when I was looking at these postings the other day.  Of course I know Jean McKay, and her children, they went to London Ontario in the 1970's I believe.   I have such a large tree and tend to think of the dead more than the living or recently dead.  At that side of the family not always sure how people connect, not having studied the living.  Met them when I was a kid.  My parents often visited aunt Cath at Alva, and her second husband Alex Harley.  Of course her daughter Jean went to Canada, I am about the same age as her children and met them a couple of times when they were very young.  As for the honesty of Christina-Ann McIntosh, well what can I say there  I just don't know, but I can verify that her first husband was still alive during WWII, he was working at that point as an ARP Warden in Glasgow, watching buildings which could go on fire after the German bombers were over Glasgow.  He came to stay with my grandparents for a short time during the war, and my father who wasn't born until 1929 met him.  My grandmother was informed of her father's death about that time 45/46 (haven't nailed that date down) and had to go then to get his belongings from a hospital/hospice (in Erskine as far as I know).  He was a bit of a drunk apparently.  Would be interesting to see these photographs you mention.  My father would appreciate seeing them.  Incidentally I know of Ian and Jim Morrison and James's children, how do you relate to them?  Apologies for just not knowing these things.  :)  My parents still live in Glasgow, I live in Texas with my wife.
 

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