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Stirlingshire / Re: Peter SAWERS esq of Netherkirkton House - Looking for his Ancestors
« on: Tuesday 18 September 18 15:32 BST (UK)  »
I was wondering where I would find out the information about Henry Miller or Millar who is said to have held the lands of kirkton in 1790.  I'm hoping it might give me some clues as to Peter Sawers esq's parents and grandparents if he indeed inherited Nether Kirkton from family.

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Stirlingshire / Re: Peter SAWERS esq of Netherkirkton House - Looking for his Ancestors
« on: Sunday 25 February 18 09:01 GMT (UK)  »
Here is an extract of Peter Sawers will where he mentions his natural children.  Thoughts?

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Stirlingshire / Re: Peter SAWERS esq of Netherkirkton House - Looking for his Ancestors
« on: Sunday 25 February 18 08:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thankyou SO much for all the research you  have helped a lot!  I never thought that Peter Sawers had ANY natural children until I read the attached which is his Will and Testament.  Its a little hard to read but it states he has two sons and a daughter.
Robert Gordon SAWERS
John Stevenson SAWERS
Isabella McFarlane SAWERS

I can't seem to find any recorded births for any of them, however -

1841 Census - Robert Gordon Sawers was 9yo living with his Aunt & Uncle  "Newhouse" Torphichen
1851 Census - Robert was a visitor at a home in Edinburgh - apprentice silk mercer?
1855 Immigrated to Australia Departed from Liverpool Arrived Melbourne
1860 - Married Harriet HAWORTH
1863 - Harriet gave birth to my great - grandfather Henry James SAWERS

The attached I found from Trove dated October 1861 in the Argus newspaper Melbourne.  So I knew there was a definite connection. I have to assume that they were all illegitimate children from perhaps random women as Peter Sawers didnt marry.  Maybe Robert wasn't familiar with his father Peter at all and therefore never made an attempt towards the will?




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Stirlingshire / Re: Peter SAWERS esq of Netherkirkton House - Looking for his Ancestors
« on: Saturday 24 February 18 01:41 GMT (UK)  »
In Peters will he mentions his two Natural born sons Robert Gordon SAWERS and John Stevenson SAWERS, and daughter Isabella McFarlane SAWERS. Robert is my 2nd great grandfather. I’m not sure who Their mother was... Peter was around 80 Or 85 when he died in Nov 1859.

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Stirlingshire / Re: Peter SAWERS esq of Netherkirkton House - Looking for his Ancestors
« on: Saturday 24 February 18 00:07 GMT (UK)  »
Ive put together a family tree on ancestry, and have purchased Peter's will from Scotlands people, along with death record that listed his parents as Margaret HAY and Robert SAWERS of Black Loch but thats as far as I can get it seems... hit brick wall!

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Stirlingshire / Peter SAWERS esq of Netherkirkton House - Looking for his Ancestors
« on: Friday 23 February 18 23:28 GMT (UK)  »
It has been written in an article that Peter SAWERS was a great grandson of a SAWERS of St Ninians and married 4 times.  Id love to find out more about his parents and grandparents if someone would be kind enough to help!  Ive attached the newspaper article from 1859 after Peters death

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Australia / Re: SAWERS family NSW and Vic
« on: Friday 12 June 15 12:52 BST (UK)  »
Thankyou so much for that, I have emailed them and asked if they can send me the documents to transcribe.  I'm hoping if I can access the record it might give me some info that will confirm if H.J Sawers is my great grandfather!

Much appreciated!

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Australia / Re: SAWERS family NSW and Vic
« on: Sunday 07 June 15 04:45 BST (UK)  »
I found a record that has an H J Sawers sailing on a vessell called the 'Verajean' from New South Wales to Macassar as a steward in October 1900.

I'm wondering if this might of been 'my Henry James Sawers' - maybe was his way to get to Manchester UK. 

South Wales, Australia, Registers of Seamen, 1859-1936 Immigration & Travel

Does anyone know how do I go about finding out further info on this record? 







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Australia / Re: SAWERS family NSW and Vic
« on: Saturday 30 May 15 03:06 BST (UK)  »
Dear Wivenhoe,
 
"...Attached is my grandmother's birth certificate.  She was born Beryl Eliza Sarah Sawers "

We need to know all the information on this certificate please.

Please see the record attached and transcription below

BIRTH RECORD

Name: Beryl Eliza Sarah SAWERS
Born 25 April 1895
Bendigo Lying-in Hospital

Father Henry James Sawers, Clerk, 33 years old,Kangaroo Flat, Bendigo
Mother  Charlotte Anne Sawers formally COFFIN, 28 years old, South Melbourne

Married 17 December 1886 Sydney, New South Wales

Siblings: Ernest Robert - dead
             Harriet Robina - 5 years
             Thomas Cecil - 4 years
             Norman Stocks - 1 year

Informant: "???" - Authorised Agent - Barnard Street Bendigo
Doctor - Dr James Boyd and Miss Kittern


I hope this information might assist in finding out anything you can, particularly on Harriet and Norman....

Thanks so much for your help!  Look forward to your response :)

Amy



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