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Australia / Re: Age of Consent, NSW. 1850s
« on: Thursday 12 March 20 19:04 GMT (UK)  »
 Majm. I am going  to be happily following up all these great resources. Thank you. Jo 

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Australia / Re: Age of Consent, NSW. 1850s
« on: Wednesday 11 March 20 01:46 GMT (UK)  »
Majm - I was very happy with all the information you have given me re- marriage, age of consent etc. i have just been re-reading this and found something else ( see quote below)which  has made me wonder about the aspect of transport. My main person of interest is gt. grandfather, WHS Hindmarsh. In 1852/53 he was living in Newtown and walking to work - first as junior shipping clerk for the Port Phillip Packet Co and then as import/export clerk  for the Sydney to Melbourne Steam co. EM Sayers who was his boss at that time and used to take him sailing on Saturdays lived at St. Leonards and i believe rowed to work each day. When his Co failed and sold out to its rival ASN WHSH went to work for a year 1855-1856 at the Survey Office writing out copy supplied by Sir Thomas Mitchell on ' Public Works of the Colony' Mitchell died . Oct. 1855, WHSH worked at the office till Feb. 1856. He married April 1856 and of the four children who were born between 1857- 1861 the family notices said of  Neutral Bay or St. Leonards.
I don't know what work WHSH did after the Survey Office until advts. start appearing from Jan. 1858. which suggest he was working for himself as commission agent - various things for sale - ships, palings and shingles but mainly Hobart Town potatoes - all to Apply to WHS Hindmarsh at Flour Company Wharf. I haven't found any information to tell me where exactly this wharf was but it is also the wharf from which Sayers ships were loaded 1852 -54. As well as this place of work WHSH was also the Hon Sec of the Sydney Literary Association  which met in the Lecture Hall, Jamison St. Church Hill. Now that you have told me about the area where he lived  I am puzzled about his transport from Neutral Bay/St. Leonards to the Flour Wharf and Jamison St. Would rowing have been his only option? Jo

 
 :) St Thomas' is in the Willoughby district, which in 1856 was a very rural district,  not easily accessible to Sydney,   so while today it is basically just a drive away over the bridge,  in the 1850s it may as well have been several days journey on a bullock dray to Parramatta and then back to Sydney Town on the southern side of the river.


 
JM

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Australia / Re: Age of Consent, NSW. 1850s
« on: Sunday 08 March 20 05:23 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Majm for all your help. I am especially grateful for all the information and links you have sent me about the legislation connected to marriage. Jo

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Australia / Re: Age of Consent, NSW. 1850s
« on: Saturday 07 March 20 19:17 GMT (UK)  »
The family all came from Alnwick in Northumberland The bride's father came to Sydney in 1850 with his 4th wife. They moved to Geelong in 1853 where the eldest son of the 3rd marriage was living. About this time  two more sons and a daughter from the 3rd marriage came to Australia and stayed in Sydney. The bride in question came by herself to Melbourne a year later met up with her father and then went to Sydney to live with her siblings. . Her sister in Sydney married a sea capt and a month later, at the end of 1855  went back to England with him . The bride in question, my gt. grandmother,  went  by steamer to Melbourne to attend this wedding so she did have contact with her father not long before her own marriage.  My gt. grandfather was friendly with his wife's brothers but in his voluminous journals he never mentions her father. 
   

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Australia / Re: Age of Consent, NSW. 1850s
« on: Saturday 07 March 20 08:44 GMT (UK)  »
Majm - That is so interesting and answers a lot of questions. I had thought gt. grandfather was being 'cute' saying  'infant ' I never imagined it was actually the term used.  Gt. grandmother knew her father was alive but there are several possibilities ( can only be guesses) as to why he might not have given consent or why they did not ask him.
Then perhaps he did give consent and  it was more to do with gt grandfather being an 'infant ' and having no parents to give consent.
Thank you very much for your help. Jo

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Australia / Re: Age of Consent, NSW. 1850s
« on: Saturday 07 March 20 07:34 GMT (UK)  »
Gt. grandfather used the term 'consent ' in his writing - it was about parental consent as they were both under 21. . I have been  wondering if gt. grandmother's father did not give consent .  Or if he gave parental consent  ( though odd that William says they were orphans) would the interview have been just for William whose parents were both dead. Jo

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Australia / Age of Consent, NSW. 1850s
« on: Saturday 07 March 20 05:45 GMT (UK)  »
Gt. grandparents  William Henry Scott HINDMARSH and Mary Frances DODDS married at St. Thomas' Anglican church, Sydney, 2nd April 1856. William recorded in his journals, "As we were both under age  and virtually infants as well as orphans we had to go to an interview with Mr. H.H. Browne, the Govt. Immigration Agent to get his consent to our nuptials. He gave his consent - by an act of Parliament under the 'New Constitution'"  They were under age  and William was indeed an orphan but Mary Frances, although her mother was dead her father was alive and living in Geelong. Does anyone know what the rules were? Were these rules the same for men as they were for  women? 
Thank you - Jo Wynne

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Australia / Re: HINDMARSH/DODDS marriage witnesses
« on: Friday 06 March 20 18:06 GMT (UK)  »
I don't need any other information about either of the families - thank you for asking.
Jo

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Australia / HINDMARSH/DODDS marriage witnesses
« on: Friday 06 March 20 04:49 GMT (UK)  »
My great grandparents William Henry Scott HINDMARSH and Mary Frances DODDS were married at St Thomas ' Anglican Church, North Sydney, NSW on 2nd April 1856. I would like to find out who the witnesses were at their wedding. Historic parish registers for St. Thomas appear to be available for viewing on microfilm at the National Library of Australia. As i live in New Zealand this is not an option for me. I wonder if there is anyone who would be able to look this up for me?
Thank you - Jo Wynne

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