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Antrim / Re: William Spence.Sarah McKane.c1844 marriage Ahoghill.Tullaghgarley,Moylarg.lookup
« on: Monday 14 February 22 03:45 GMT (UK)  »
I appreciate your input Jon_ni.
It is time consuming along with not knowing which church or town to zero in on.

I volunteered many years for the Alberta Family History Society in Calgary visiting and documenting grave monuments and doing lookups, if l was in the 'area' of that persons search.
I also worked the library and helped many seniors that were not computer savvy, to navigate their way around the computer and our family history sites. The smile on their faces when they found something, made my day. I still remember it now.

I am hoping my posting will find someone that has the same lineage of mine, and are going to PRONI,  will help me.
I practically lived in the LDS libraries helping fellow genealogists and finding my interests, and had an awesome time in Salt Lake when we were able to visit back in 2009. Didn't want to leave!

One day l may be able to visit PRONI myself, and visit my ancestors villages and towns too.
Here's hoping l get a 'bite' on my post.

Kira



 

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Antrim / Re: William Spence.Sarah McKane.c1844 marriage Ahoghill.Tullaghgarley,Moylarg.lookup
« on: Thursday 10 February 22 15:58 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for that information Aghadowey. Onwards and backwards l go.
Kira

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Antrim / Re: William Spence.Sarah McKane.c1844 marriage Ahoghill.Tullaghgarley,Moylarg.lookup
« on: Thursday 10 February 22 03:50 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Elwyn for your reply and useful search information.
Also having  three Tullaghgarleys...Connor, Craigs and Ahoghill, keeps me on my toes.

It is frustrating about the registration start dates for Ireland but that's what makes it exciting when one finds a match! The thrill of the hunt for us genealogists.

I was fortunate in that my Joseph Spence1858 moved to Scotland as their certificates show so much information. I went through the census' for any male Spence born Ireland, living Port Glasgow Scotland in the 1881 census, ordered one of the children's birth certificates to ascertain when and where the parents married. I then ordered the marriage. Was costly but l eventually found 3 other brothers.

Was cheaper than flying from Canada.

If anyone is visiting PRONI, do they have a minute to look up Sarah Spence burial c1858-1861?
They were all Presbyterians. Her husband William Spence1813 died in 'Tullygrawley' Antrim

Kindest regards
Kira

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Antrim / William Spence.Sarah McKane.c1844 marriage Ahoghill.Tullaghgarley,Moylarg.lookup
« on: Wednesday 09 February 22 05:28 GMT (UK)  »
Good evening.
I have the following records using actual BMD's, however, i wonder if someone can find a marriage for William Spence (his father David SPENCE) to Sarah McKane (diff spellings obviously) circa 1840 possibly Moylarg/Tullaghgarley. Also a death of Sarah SPENCE 1858-1861.This is where l am stuck going back. 

Fortunately William Spence bn c1813 was a Watchmaker/Farmer/Weaver, depending on which of his child's marriage or death. The Watchmaker profession has enabled me to zero in on more definite matches. What steered me to the Moylarg/Ahoghill/Tullaghgarley area was where one of the sons decided to marry in Killymurris and stated his townland as Tullaghgarley, yet was living Port Glasgow Scotland. All of my Port Glasgow Spence's late 1880's stated born Ireland on census'.

This is what l have so far....
Parents William Spence and Sarah McKane
Son William SPENCE bn c1845 Ireland according to Scotland census'. His marriage certificate 1Jan1867 age 22 to Mary Jane BAMER in Port Glasgow Scotland.  Parents to SPENCE, William SPENCE clock and watchmaker, Sarah KING. William1845 died 1920 Port Glasgow Scotland in an accident .His death certificate states father William, as a Jeweller and mother Sarah MCKEAN.

Son Thomas SPENCE bn c1852 Ireland according to Scotland census'. His marriage certificate 14April1873 age 21 to Jane NEWTON in Renfrew Scotland. Parents to SPENCE, William, watchmaker and Sally McKING. Living Port Glasgow.

Son Robert SPENCE bn c1854 Ireland according to Scotland census'. He lived with his brother in 1881 Port Glasgow prior to marriage. His marriage certificate Killymurris 1st Presbyterian Ballymena, 20Jun1884 his age 'Full' to  Agnes RUSSELL. His father William SPENCE ,farmer. Roberts townland states Tullaghgarley. His death age 82 in 1936 Port Glasgow states father William SPENCE a Watchmaker and mother Sarah MCKEAN.

Son Joseph SPENCE bn c1858 Ireland. His marriage certificate 16Sept1879 age 22 to Elizabeth CORMIE in South Shields Durham England. Parent to SPENCE, William Spence, Watchmaker.
Joseph is my lineage. He moved to Port Glasgow Scotland 1880. CORMIE died and he married to a widow TOSH, ms GALBRAITH in 1889 Port Glasgow. Marriage certificate states father Watchmaker and mother Sarah McKean.
Joseph died 1928 age 70 Port Glasgow Scotland. Death cert. states father a Watchmaker and mother Sarah McKean.

My latest find on the William SPENCE bn c1814 is a marriage, his second, on 25Oct1861 to Mary Ann LINN, he of Moylarg Ahoghill, watchmaker,widower, age 47. LINN of Tullygrawley Ahoghill age 23!!! His father David SPENCE, a farmer. Married in the Register Office of Ballymena.
She died suddenly September 1865 per the Ballymena Observer 9Sept1865.

He is not done yet. Third marriage, William SPENCE age 52 bn1815 widower, a weaver, to Jane MEEK,widow (ms WORKMAN) age 37. Married 13March1867 Register Office Ballymena. He of Moylarg, Ahoghill, father David SPENCE,farmer. Jane of Drumrankin Ahoghill. His son Samuel born 1867 school records show father a watchmaker from Moylarg.
His death certificate 29Feb1888 age 76 bn1812 Watchmaker of Tullygrawley. His wife Jane, informant.

I would like to find Williams marriage to Sarah MCKEAN and her death circa 1858-1861 if anyone can help.
All these records show Ahoghill, Tullaghgarley and Moylarg area.

I did go on a big trail that didn't look like my line, following the names SPENCE/BOAL-Ireland. SPENCE/CARSON-Ireland. SPENCE/LOCKE-Ireland.Canada. circa 1860 and on. These had the McKANE names all around the same townland.
The CARSON line had a gravemarker showing Sarah SPENCE but her birth age was 1826. Also included the names BOAL and LOVE. This Sarah's father was William SPENCE, farmer. 

Thank you in advance
Kira


   

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 census 3 Sands Street Liverpool - need look up please
« on: Friday 22 June 18 14:16 BST (UK)  »
Well done everyone for guiding me around this interest of mine.

I had wondered if Mary Ann and William, had had hissy fits with each other and William temporarily stayed with a buddy or as l mentioned before, he was convalescing at another family's home.

Interesting that the M'Corquodale directory has a William Hughes living 10 Sand Street!!  Where as 'my' William had a death address of 3 Sand(s) Street.

Thank you all !







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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 census 3 Sands Street Liverpool - need look up please
« on: Thursday 21 June 18 16:19 BST (UK)  »
Thank you all for taking the time to look this up for me. FamilySearch have the birth place as B.S.  !!!

I used this map to find Sands Street....  Rathbone_map1906 …. that shows Sands Street around the corner of Rathbone Street. So l am presuming this is the 'right' one.
According to the Trinity House Petition that Mary Ann applied for around June 1849, there was a death document certified by a surgeon, included. This surgeon also stated Sands Street and that he had 'seen him' a couple of days prior. This petition was amazing with so many copy baptisms, marriage, ships William was First Mate or Captain, certified letters from ship owners and other documents.
As Mary Ann was seven months pregnant with her (of living) sixth child, (and it looks like they lived in the cellar of 71 Rathbone Street), l presume that her husband may have been taken care of  by this neighbour James White and family. Would be good to know if 71 Rathbone Street is on the corner of 3 Sands Street. 
Mary Ann had six young children at her husbands death. What a terrible situation to be in.


Thank you all, once again.


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Lancashire Lookup Requests / 1851 census 3 Sands Street Liverpool - need look up please
« on: Thursday 21 June 18 05:14 BST (UK)  »
Hello Listers

I have just received the death certificate of my ancestor William Hughes born c1811 and died 17 January 1849 age 38.  The address stated at his death is 3 Sands Street Liverpool.

His family, wife Mary Ann Hughes, widow, along with her children Elizabeth ( my GGGrandmother) , Margaret, Thomas, Ann and Mary Ann's parents the Northcotts all live at 71 Rathbone Street Mount Pleasant in the 1851 census , just around the corner from Sands Street.
William and Mary Ann's last child Ann was born March 1849 and at her baptism, the address is 71 Rathbone Street Liverpool.

At a guess, l am presuming that they lived at the back of this house which bordered Sands Street. William's Mother in Law , Elizabeth Northcott was 'present at death'.

I have tried looking for the 1851 census for this address, 3 Sands Street,  through familysearch with no results. Could someone please help me on this issue.

Thank you in advance for taking the time to look this up.


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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Knockholt parish records..WHITEHEAD
« on: Monday 02 October 17 16:01 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the offer.

I was able to go back a generation on this line quite a few years ago now, by using an online tree of a fellow relative.

Parents to Lucy WHITEHEAD bn1787 are Edward bn1759 Knockholt and Elizabeth BRAZIER. Parents to Edward WHITEHEAD are John WHITEHEAD bn1731 St Mary Cray Kent and Hannah CHEARY.

But note that l do not have original documentation to back this finding up as l have not followed this lineage for yonks.

All the best to moving forward, with going backwards ...Kira

Kira

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Argyllshire / Re: pauper burials Southend Argyll
« on: Wednesday 06 January 16 03:21 GMT (UK)  »
No updates on this relative. As l believe, they died as paupers, so there isn't much to go on. Pity, as Thomas Connor lived 'til 90! You thought he would have any kind of paperwork. Maybe newspapers may have something. Will keep you posted Jill.
Lovely to make contact again.

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