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Hi Catherine,

I think McAlpine was a cousin, but there was also a brother, (and so Wordsworth's confusion);

13/01/1798 ALEXANDER GRAHAM married CHRISTIAN MCVEAN Aberfoyle
26/12/1799 ALEXANDER GRAHAM/CHIRSTIAN MCVEAN JEAN ELIZABETH Callander [Glengyle]

His wife's family was probably;

19/08/1775 ALEXANDER MCVEAN married JEAN GRAHAME St Cuthbert's
21/08/1775 ALEXANDER MCVEAN married JEAN MCGRIGOR Buchanan
19/06/1776 ALEXANDER MCVEAN/JEAN MCGRIGOR ELIZABETH Buchanan [Comer]
27/05/1778 ALEXANDER MCVEAN/JEAN MCGRIGOR JOHN Buchanan [Comer]
27/04/1780 ALEXANDER MCVEAN/JEAN MCGRIGOR CHRISTIN Buchanan
04/01/1782 ALEXANDER MCVEAN/JEAN MCGRIGOR PATRICK Buchanan
01/09/1783 ALEXANDER MCVEAN/JEAN MCGRIGOR DONALD Buchanan

His wife's mother was probably Jean of Glengyle;

1753 John Graham of Glengyle/Jean Buchanan in Glenguile Jean [Callander]

Who appears to have married again;

1786 Alexander Stewart son to James Tacksman in Duniverig+Jean McGregor daur to John of Glengyle
1787 Alexander Stewart/Jean McGregor Tacksman in Duniverig James Aberfoyle
1789 Alexr. Stewart/Jean McGregor Tacksman of Duniverig John Aberfoyle
1790 Alexr Stewart/Jean McGregor Tacksman of Duniverig Duncan Aberfoyle
1792 Alexr. Stewart/Jean McGregor Tacksman of Duniverig Henry Gregor Aberfoyle
1794 Alexr. Stewart/Jean McGrigor Tacksman in Duniverig Alexander Aberfoyle
1796 Mr Alexr Stewart/Jean McGregor in Duniverig David Aberfoyle

And so, the Glengyle connection. Maybe Andrew had recently died when the Wordsworths visited, and Dorothy was told about him as Christian's husband, but assumed it was the McAlpine cousin.

My data is mainly McGregor families, and so I see other families through a McGregor lens, but if it helps this is what I have for McFarlanes at Sallochy;

1715 Gregor Mcgregor in Coreuclet and Katherine Mcfarlan sone John wit. Robt Mcfarlan in Salachy and Neil Mcbeth in Callimore

And these three lines on the same day;
1719 Robt Mcfarlan & Marion Mcnaughtan in Salachie sone Robert wit. Walter and John Mcfarlans in Salachie
1719 William Mcjock in Salachie & Ann Mcfarlan daur Elizabeth wit. ut supra (Latin for as above)
1719 Donald Mcgregor in Cailnesse & Kathrine Mcgregor daur Jean wit. ut supra

And the family you already mentioned;

23/03/1770 PETER MACFARLANE/MARGRET MACFARLANE ANDREW Buchanan [Sallochy]
20/09/1772 PETER MCFARLAN/MARGRAT MCFARLAN JOHN Buchanan [Easter Sallochie]
12/10/1774 PETER MCFARLANE/MARGARET MCFARLANE WILLIAM Buchanan [Easter Sallochie]
15/04/1777 PETER MCFARLANE/MARGARET MCFARLANE ROBERT Buchanan [Easter Sallochy]
20/02/1780 PETER MCFARLANE/MARGARET MCFARLANE MARGRET Buchanan
01/07/1785 PETER MCFARLANE/MARGARET MCFARLANE PETER Buchanan
10/12/1789 PETER MCFARLANE/MARGRET MCFARLANE JAMES Buchanan [Sallochie]

John.

Hi Catherine,

I know a bit about the family, but I don't have the two records you can't decipher. Maybe a seperate post to decipher the handwriting would be a good idea, as it's a bit off this topic.

To Kori's point, Agnes McKerchar is probably the Ann McFarlan in 1755. There are a few examples in the Buchanan registers where it specifically says "McFarlane or McKerrocher", and also "McFarlane or McInstalker".

I think this family is William McAlpine->Donald (two wives)->Daniel

Are you sure about Ross Priory? That's on Lochmond, but not in Buchanan Parish. I assumed Ross was Ross Farm, which is much further north, by Ross Point and Ross Wood. Ross Priory was the seat of the Leith-Buchanans of Ross.

I think their son Donald remained by Ross at Coille Mhor, (Calliemore), William and Jean lived in Aberfoyle Parish. I think Jean's daughter Jean married Andrew McFarlane and they lived at Glengyle with her brother Alexander and her cousin. The significance of this is that Dorothy Wordsworth stayed with them in 1803 and wrote several pages about the family's life there in her Recollections of a Tour Made in Scotland, although she appears to have conflated Jean's brother and cousin;
"Mr. Macfarlane, and his wife's brother, Mr. Macalpine, farmed under the lady of Glengyle, the mother of the young laird, a minor."

BTW, the place names could be Corriegrennan and Ballindeor/Ballendoir/Balendoress/Balliniore/Ballymore. Both were south of Comer, and the latter was the residence of Duncan McKerchar/McFarlan and Anna Mcfarlane.

John.

Hi,

I think this could be the next generation back;

1719 Thomas McComish/Marrion McKnee Doanld Duncraggan Callander [Donald]
1726 Thomas McHomish/Marion McNie Thomas Duncraggan Callander
1728 Thomas McComash/Marion Nicknie Janet Duncraggan Callander

This is probably the same Thomas McComas of Duncraggan who sponsored Dougal in 1735, the illegitimate son of John Murray McGregor of Ardmacmuin and Janet Ferguson of Ardcheanochroehan. It could also be the same Thomas McComas who married Mary McLeran in 1743.

John.

Hi,

I have McGregor ancestors, and their surnames were all over the place, as explained above. However, in that Highland area it was also common to use sept names, and spell them in several different ways. This appeareed to be true for most families, but the one I know in detail is my own, which was Campbell. That was rearly used, instead they also used; McAinsh, McTavish, McKaush, McAwish, Aunsh, McAnsh, McAuish. I suspect they always said it the same way, but the different spellings are how the minister interpreted what he had heard.

John.

Hi Harry,

As Forfarian mentioned, the Clan Gregor Society transcribed the parish registers for Western Perthshire and put it on their website. I've checked, and unfortunately it's not on their new website. It only included McGregor families, but did include McGregor families using an alias, and some kirk session notes. I mentioned it because it was my main source for Patrick's family, and there are sometimes small differences between it and the Scotland's People's index. Although, one big difference, as you've found, is that the index often uses just the alias name, and doesn't mention the McGregor part, which is the case with Patrick.

The name proscription was lifted in 1774, and most people went back to using McGregor. Some older people kept their alias, but their children usually didn't. I know of one family in Argyle that kept their alias name, but usually if a family isn't using McGregor after 1774, then they probably weren't McGregors.

Who was your Duncan Drummond alias McGregor ancestor? Did he live by Callander? If so, I can check the transcript and the pages of the registers I've bought from Scotland's People to see if I have him. My dad's family are from Callander and Balquhidder, so I've collected information about the area from building my own tree.

John.