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Staffordshire / Re: Jemima Mountford (1828)... Help needed!
« on: Wednesday 28 February 24 00:14 GMT (UK)  »
I'm still wondering why we didn't find a baptism for Harriet Mountford...  ???

After much searching with no results, I saw on the 1851 Census that the approximate birth year was 1838, and it occurred to me that it could be listed on FreeBMD (since it could be after 1837)  8)  [It also says she was born at Oseworth, Staffordshire].

I found 3 possible births for Harriet Mountford:

SEP 1838   Harriet Mountford at Stoke on Trent,
DEC 1838   Harriet Montford at Newcastle under Lyme, and
DEC 1838   Harriett Mountford at Wolstanton.    :o

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Staffordshire / Re: Jemima Mountford (1828)... Help needed!
« on: Monday 26 February 24 20:01 GMT (UK)  »
On FamilySearch I found a baptism for Thomas Mountford: 25 Nov 1787 at Norton le Moors, father's name: Joseph Mountford, mother's name: Ann.

Another person gives the source of this information as "St Bartholomew's records."

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Staffordshire / Re: Jemima Mountford (1828)... Help needed!
« on: Sunday 25 February 24 14:04 GMT (UK)  »
I've made a CHRONOLOGY with all the dates, places and names, plus some more information. It may be of use for anyone (present or future) researching this family:  :)

  1 Jan 1775   Baptism at Biddulph of Catharine Doorbar*, daughter of John Doorbar and Ann
  5 Oct 1777   Baptism at Biddulph of Hannah Doorbar, daughter of John Doorbar** and Ann
   
28 Sep 1794   Marriage: Richard Boulton from Horton and Hannah Doorbar from Biddulph.
  1 Mar 1795   Baptism at St. Lawrence of Ann "Bolton" daughter of Richard "Bolton" and Hannah.
11 May 1796   Burial at St. Lawrence, Biddulph of Richard Boulton, living at Horton.
   
27 Nov 1796   Marriage Banns: Hannah Boulton and William Boot, both from Biddulph.
13 Dec 1796   Marriage at St. Lawrence, Biddulph of William Boot and Hannah Boulton.
  5 Nov 1797   Christening at Biddulph of Mary Boot daughter of William Boot and Hannah.
  4 May 1800   Christening at Horton, Staffordshire of Lionel Boot son of William Boot and Hannah.
25 Nov 1804   Christening at Horton, Staffordshire of Harriet Boot daughter of William Boot and Hannah.
  9 Aug 1807   Christening at Biddulph of Catharine Boot daughter of William Boot and Hannah.
 24 Jan 1808   Burial at Biddulph of William Boot.
   
23 Jan 1814   Marriage Banns: Hannah Boot (widow) and Charles Lawton (bachelor), both from Biddulph.
  7 Feb 1814   Marriage at St. Lawrence, Biddulph of Charles Lawton and Hannah Boot.
                       (Daughter Ann Boulton would be 19 years old)
15 Feb 1818   Christening at Newchapel of Charles Lawton son of Charles Lawton and Hannah.
  25 Jul 1819   Christening at Wolstanton of Henry Lawton son of Charles Lawton and Hannah.
   9 Apr 1820   Christening at Newchapel of James Lawton son of Charles Lawton and Hannah.
   
  14 Jul 1818   Marriage of Thomas Mountford and Ann Boulton, at Horton.
24 May 1821   Baptism at Norton le Moors of Aaron Mountford son of Thomas and Ann.
  1 Feb 1825   Christening at Burslem of Hannah Mountford daughter of Thomas and Ann.
22 Jun 1825    Burial at Burslem of Hannah Mountford (born 1824, age 0).
12 Mar 1827   Christening at Burslem of William Mountford son of Thomas and Ann.
28 Oct 1827    Burial at Burslem of William Mountford (born 1827, age 0).
27 Dec 1828   Birth of Jemima "Mumford" daughter of Thomas "Mumford" and Ann "Lawton".
   4 Jan 1829   Baptism at Tunstall of Jemima Mountford.
 11 Dec 1831   Baptism of Sarah Mountford at Newchapel daughter of Thos Mountford and Ann.
             1834   Birth of Harriet Mountford daughter of Thomas and Ann.
   
1841 Census   Charles Lawton (75) b.1762-1766, Hannah Lawton (65) b.1772-1776, Charles Lawton
                         (23) b.1814-1818, Mary Lawton (daughter-in-law? 23), William Cole (18), Eliza Burnett (13),
                         and Harriett Lawton (0). All living at Cob More (Wolstanton & Burslem)
30 Dec 1844   Death of Charles Lawton (farmer) of "Paraletic stroke". Age 79.
   3 Jan 1845   Burial of Charles Lawton at St. Lawrence, Biddulph. Burial person abode: "Cob moor,
                         Wolston parish"
 15 Apr 1852   Death of Hannah Lawton (widow of Charles Lawton) of "natural decay". Age 77.
 18 Apr 1852   Burial of Hannah Lawton at St. Lawrence, Biddulph. Burial person abode: "Bradley Green"
   
18 Sep 1849   Burial of Thomas Mountford. Age 63. At Burslem.
14 Aug 1860   Burial of Ann Mountford. Age 65. At St. Margaret's, Wolstanton.
   
   *Catharine was the name of Hannah's sister and also her daughter (Catharine Boot).
   **There is a family tree made about John Doorbar on Family Seach (with lots of information!)

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Staffordshire / Re: Jemima Mountford (1828)... Help needed!
« on: Saturday 24 February 24 23:11 GMT (UK)  »
Many, many Congratulations Willow!!!   ;D
You've finally solved the mystery!!! (and it was a difficult one!)
I still can't believe the great amount of information you've discovered!...
Thank you so much for your invaluable help!!!  :D

(and thanks also to everyone else that helped!)

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Staffordshire / Re: Jemima Mountford (1828)... Help needed!
« on: Friday 23 February 24 14:28 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Willow!
I was just looking at that one too!  ;D
It says age 72...

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Staffordshire / Re: Jemima Mountford (1828)... Help needed!
« on: Friday 23 February 24 13:48 GMT (UK)  »
Could this be her?:

Burial of Sarah Price, age 88, DEC-1919 at Wolverhampton.
Birth Year (Estimated):   1831

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Staffordshire / Re: Jemima Mountford (1828)... Help needed!
« on: Thursday 22 February 24 21:05 GMT (UK)  »
A few more clues that I have about Sarah Mountford / Lawton / Price:

1861 Census: Sarah Lawton, wife, 29 (b.1832) from Chell (living at High Street, Knutton)
1871 Census: Sarah Price, wife-mother, 40 (b.1831) from Chesterton (living at 127 Sandford St)
1881 Census: Sarah Price, wife-mother, 50 (b.1831) from Burslem (living at Mile House)
1891 Census: Sarah Price, wife-mother, 60 (b.1831) no place of birth (at Mile House Inn)
1901 Census: Sarah Price, wife, 70 (b.1831) from Blackbull (living at 19 Liverpool Rd, Cross Heath)

And I never found her after that, or knew the year she died...  :'(


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Staffordshire / Re: Jemima Mountford (1828)... Help needed!
« on: Thursday 22 February 24 20:25 GMT (UK)  »
I have just learned that Knutton Heath is not Cross Heath:
On a "Map Centre of Early Georgian OS map showing the area of: Burslem, City Of Stoke On Trent" (viewed on archiuk.com), one can see that Knutton Heath is next to Knutton.

Also this:
"There was an iron stone mine in Knutton as early as 1314.
Between 1686 and 1929 there was a forge on Knutton Heath at which flat round iron plates were hammered out to make frying pans, subsequently manufactured in nearby Newcastle.
http://www.places.staffspasttrack.org.uk/.../child.asp...
http://www.search.staffspasttrack.org.uk/.../default.asp...
By the early 19th century a number of pits had been opened in the surrounding area to produce iron ore and coal for the blast furnaces.The population rose from 1,918 in 1851 to 4,464 in 1861 due to the establishment of these new ironworks."



Maybe this would explain that Thomas Mountford ("a farmer of Knutton Heath" in 1831 when his son Charles was born), became a collier...  ???

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Staffordshire / Re: Jemima Mountford (1828)... Help needed!
« on: Thursday 22 February 24 15:13 GMT (UK)  »
13.3.1831 at St Margarets Wolstanton Joseph son of Thomas and Ann Mountford farmer of Knutton Heath
Willow x

On the marriage of Daniel Lawton to Sarah Mountford in 1853, it said that she lived at Knutton Heath (now Cross Heath I guess), and Daniel lived at Knutton.

They then went to live in Knutton next door to Daniel Lawton's father (also Thomas) and also next door to his sister Martha. All in High Street, Knutton (see 1861 census).

Congratulations Willow!!!  :) :o

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