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The photo is dated 1892  - see the url link

I always thought the date of 1880 might not be correct as this had been added at a later date, so the link you sent was very helpful and I guess that 1890's is more accurate after comparing the outfits of both women.  Haven't been able to find a death certificate for her, or re-marriage.  In fact, if the photo was taken in 1890's that would make her around 78 years old and I don't think the woman in this photo looks that old. 
Many thanks for everyone's input.

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Thank you too Treetotal.  No, I don't have access to the actual photo, this was emailed to me.

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Thanks for the link Gadget - the sleeves and bodice of the dress are very similar.  I was hoping that her outfit could give me a more accurate date.

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Could anyone help in dating this photo of Catherine McGovern (McDaniel) in Newcastle/Darlington area possibly by her clothing.
The photo was at some point shown as having been taken in 1880.  She was born around 1811 in Ireland and I'm not sure if she looks 69 in this photo.
Any help greatly appreciated.

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Cavan / Re: Seeking McGoverns for Y-chromosome DNA Group
« on: Tuesday 29 September 20 21:38 BST (UK)  »
This topic is from several months ago so not sure if its still active.  My family are McGovern's and my brother took an Ancestry DNA test about a year ago but may be interested in doing a FamilyTree DNA test. 
If you would mssge me more information, what you need etc I'll get back to you.
Thanks.

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Northumberland / Re: St Andrews Baptismal Records from 1841 on
« on: Tuesday 20 March 18 11:51 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Richard.  Look forward to receiving it.

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Northumberland / Re: St Andrews Baptismal Records from 1841 on
« on: Monday 19 March 18 15:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Richard, here we are again a year later and still haven't tracked down the elusive Catherine McGovern.  However, I have found out a couple of things -  I obtained a copy of the marriage certificate for her daughter, Mary to Peter Devitt in Darlington in 1860 and was most surprised to find that Mary's surname on the certificate is Bartley and her father was John Bartley.  I did come across somewhere that Mary and John McGovern b.1850 (in Newcastle) were half brother and sister, but cannot remember where, so I guess this would fit in.
Another relative sent me a copy of a photo of Catherine McGovern dated 1881 which I think you forwarded to him.  When I was at the WDYTYA event in Birmingham last year I took a copy of the photo and had it analysed. Result was it couldn't have been dated 1881 from the clothes she was wearing, as they didn't come into fashion until almost a decade later.  Which has brought me to thinking, is that definitely the same Catherine - she would have been approx 75-80 years old if the photo is dated as 1891 - does she look that old in the photo ?  What do you think ?
jo_alexandrou@yahoo.com

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Northumberland / Re: St Andrews Baptismal Records from 1841 on
« on: Wednesday 25 January 17 15:37 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for replying Richard.  Can't seem to find many people tracing this line of the family - where are they all ?
I'm currently following an online Genealogy course with Strathclyde Uni and I hope to find some information on getting around brick walls that I may be able to use. 
Do keep in touch.
Jo  :)

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Northumberland / Re: St Andrews Baptismal Records from 1841 on
« on: Tuesday 24 January 17 22:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Richard, I've just found yr old entry relating to John McGovern b.1850 in Newcastle who later married Annie Cox.  I too, come from this McGovern line - my grandfather, William, being one of John's son's.
I haven't been successful in finding John's father or more information about his mother Catherine McDaniel, but I haven't given up just yet.

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