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I clearly have some catching up to do! You have details that I do not and go back further than I have managed so far. Are these records from the memorial inscriptions you mentioned?

I have the impression that up until mid-century (19th) that there was a degree of mobility in pursuit of work and they shifted from parish to parish. This suggests to me that they were either unskilled (i.e. labourers) or had non-location skills such as bricklaying. Even so, they did not go too far. My line eventually settled in Wilmslow, presumably because of the mills in the area. 

I had got the fanny Southern connection so it is good to have that confirmed. She is also buried at Rostherne (1825) though I do not know where the grave is. i spend a bit of time there since my mother and some her family are in the churchyard.

I have the William of William/Fanny being the some of Peter B (d 1799) and Clarinda Cotler (d 1794). This was more deduction than evidence based and I have been unable to take either of them back further. Is this the peter to which you refer? I am still not clear how your James relates to my William.

I don't have the Alderley memorial inscriptions. I will see if I can get hold of them.

Hi everyone.

Thanks for the sterling efforts so far. I have delved into the Garston family Capetown found in the 1871 census. The only one I think I have possibly found is Catherine - there's a Kate Banbrick, age 18 and described as a charwoman lodging at 27 Raglan St, Garston in the 1881 census. It may be the right family though 'my' Margaret's father is described as a general labourer on her wedding certificate whereas William Banbrick was working as a puddler in the iron works in 1871.

And thanks also to Rosie99 for pointing out that I had completely missed Margaret and William Blackshaw living together in 1891 before the marriage and, presumably, the relationship would predate the census date.

William Blackshaw is also absent from the 1881 census but he was a gunner in the Royal Artillery at the time and this is yet another avenue to pursue for a possible explanation as to how he and Margaret met.

In case you are interested in putting a face to a name, I have attached a photo of Margaret.

 Thanks for all the effort finding this stuff out. It really is much appreciated. I am still at a loss to explain where the younger Agnes Scott spent her childhood but this is nothing new for me - I have a granny with a similar record gap between birth and marriage.

Kind regards

rod

 

Hi

You have been working hard and I am impressed by what you have found out. It does help clarify things. The birth date of 1862 for Agnes GENTLES PATRICK SCOTT is later than the one I had previously found and fits better with the marriage date of the parents. I have no record of her death but she does not feature in any census data I have seen.

I have re-checked the executor accounts for Robert PATRICK and there looks to have been three legatees - Agnes GENTLES SCOTT, Alexander STEVENSON SCOTT and Robert PATRICK McMULLEN. Agnes was the principle legatee and my records show that she was receiving £12/month from the estate in 1912. Alexander got a watch and chain which would have been no use to him because he died the year before! Robert received £100.

Many thanks for getting things this far. I still have a few credits on SP, so I will dive in again and see how fare I can get base don what you have found out.