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For whatever reason, I never got a notification about these extremely helpful replies! Thank you so very much! I don't know if the historical facts about these two people is of interest to anyone else, but  in case someone stumbles across this in their own research. I'm not surprised that it lists Scotland as their birthplace, but in fact that's likely inaccurate according to my research.

Andrew McKnight was born in 1831 to a George McNeight and unknown mother in Newtonards, County Down. He married Sarah Milliken (b. 1831 also apparently in Newtonards, daughter of Hamilton Milliken and Jane Malcolmson) in the Bangor Presby. Church in 1854. They brought the family to Dalry, Ayrshire after the 1861 Scotland census. Hamilton Milliken was apparently already there. They were there in 1871, in Auchinleck in 1881, and at the Woodend Cottage location in 1891 and 1901. I've never found Andrew in the 1911 census oddly enough.

I'm so grateful, thank y'all for the wonderful assistance and information!

With warm regards,
Andrew

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Hello - I know that my 2G grandparents Andrew McKnight and Sarah (Milliken) moved to West Calder in the 1880s sometime, and she died there in 1901 and he in 1915. I've seen West Calder referred to in both West Lothian and Midlothian, so I hope I'm posting to the correct board! I know they have Death Certificates of some sort for each of them indexed at Scotland's People, but no idea if the burial information would be included.

I've never been to Scotland but that will change soon and it would be nice to find their graves if possible. Any advice/help is most welcome and deeply appreciated!

With warm regards from northern Virginia's Blue Ridge,
Andrew
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Andrew McKnight
Singer Writer Guitarist - Lincoln VA
http://andrewmcknight.net

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Down / Re: Andrew McKnight & Sarah Milliken of Newtonards
« on: Wednesday 07 September 16 03:24 BST (UK)  »
Thank you both - that is a step in what looks like a good direction!

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Family History Beginners Board / Building Research Network to Other Sites
« on: Monday 05 September 16 03:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

I imagine that other folks who've gotten into this wonder about this, so I thought I'd bring it to the experts. We've done a fairly decent job converting our family history into a fairly extensive tree at Ancestry.com with good documentation - I've got 27 of my 32 great-great-great grandparents figured out. We're starting to do some DNA testing on my parents with the hope of connecting with other living relatives, distant cousins especially in Ireland and Scotland. We're trying to get over brick walls there in advance of a family trip next spring. Regardless of whether our people came thru New Brunswick Canada, or into NY/New England, our brick walls are all back there.

It would seem to make sense to network outside of Ancestry as well. We use Family Tree Maker so it's easy to export a GEDCOM, but we'd love to devote what little time we have to other websites with large tree databases and useful features. So would love some advice - should we upload to geni.com, or Family Finder, Findmypast.com, or some other sites? Which 2-4 sites might offer the best opportunity to connect with Irish and Scots relatives?

Thanks in advance for the help and advice! Our family tree at Ancestry is readily available to potential family and helpers.

With warm regards,
Andrew McKnight
Lincoln VA

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Down / Andrew McKnight & Sarah Milliken of Newtonards
« on: Monday 05 September 16 03:08 BST (UK)  »
Hello all,
I've run into a bit of brick wall with my great-great grandparents, Andrew McKnight (b. 1831) and Sarah Milliken (b. 1834). They both seem to have been born in Newtonards, married in 1854 and emigrated to Ayrshire Scotland between 1861 and 1864. I'd love any help in tracking down their parents. Supposedly at least the McKnight family had emigrated TO Down from Scotland at some point.

My dad just got results back from y-67 test at Family Search as part of the McKnight Family Project. As of today, we appear to be unique in the 111 current test participants. At least I know who we're NOT closely related to, but I'd love to find some positive correlations :) Happy to share access to what we have at Ancestry.com to any potential family/helpers!

Many thanks!
Andrew McKnight
Lincoln VA

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Ireland / Re: Seeking an ancestor - emigrated during the Famine
« on: Sunday 06 December 15 01:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hmmm - there's a lot of Hannah Hennesseys that show up in the 1860 census but none that match her closely enough for me to scream "that's her!".

One bit of wisdom that would be helpful - anyone know what ports took in the most refugees from the famine, and perhaps any other general tendencies that might help me narrow it down? Even better if I could nail it for the years 1852-54; I haven't the foggiest notion of where I'd find that info here, but I'll start googling in the morning.

Just tossing it out there in case that is ready knowledge to some of the folks here - and again, my humble thanks for the info and assists!

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Ireland / Re: Seeking an ancestor - emigrated during the Famine
« on: Friday 04 December 15 22:43 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you friends - some responses to the helpful info and questions.

Marriage license didn't turn up in the Glastonbury town records, though I did get a death cert that state her father was William (?) born in Ireland, and mother's maiden name "unknown", also born in Ireland. That was a tiny bit more than we knew. Not sure how my family knows the marriage date and place so surely. My 93-year old great aunt has kept what her mom handed down quite well, but even so, some stuff is simply accepted factoids that might not be spot-on.

Sadly those passenger records don't overlap the 1852/54 likely emigration date. I don't know why I think she was orphaned, and I wish I could figure out who took her, and who greeted her, and where in the hell in these United States they came through.

I don't know that I've seen 1860 US census data anywhere, at least via Ancestry. We were about to start killing each other in large numbers then, so I don't know that it actually got done. If so, I'd surely love to see it as it would be telling indeed. I've not figured out what Catholic Church they attended here, but there must have been one and there aren't that many. On that.

And I didn't know about her probate papers, but since she had 10 kids, I'm thinking that those are probably next of kin. I'm grateful that we have pics of her and her husband, but she arrived in a cloud of mystery, at least here in the 21st century.

I am grateful for the suggestions and the collective wisdom!

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Scotland / Re: Kirkland Brothers and "Family Fortune" down with the Titanic
« on: Wednesday 02 December 15 03:41 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the heads up on Scotland's People - I'd tried looking about a couple years ago and mostly found brick walls, but I know a lot more specifics of who I am looking for now. Now if there weren't so many people all using the same names...  :)

And as for Charles Kirkland, I gleaned much of what I know from that article, and yes he did spend his last few years preaching in Maine. Ironically, at the time that I learned all of this, my then 9-year old Titanic-obsessed nephew was astounded to learn that he had a relative go down with the ship, and his last known address was in Bangor, not 20 minutes from my sister's house :)

A couple of his siblings are pretty well charted out in Ancestry and via Canadian census. As for his sister Leavinia, my 3G grandmother, I'm still trying to track down her death date and location. She remarried late in life, and I think she was either in Woodstock NB or with some of the family who'd moved a few miles away to Houlton or Presque Isle ME. Fascinating stuff!

Off to Scotland's People I go, grateful for the assist and the reminder! I don't know that I know enough to learn anything definitive, but I look forward to the exploration.

With warm regards,
Andrew

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Scotland / Kirkland Brothers and "Family Fortune" down with the Titanic
« on: Tuesday 01 December 15 02:33 GMT (UK)  »
Greetings from America, and here goes....

My 4th great-grandfather John William Kirkland, born ~1802 someplace in Scotland, apparently had two brothers who stayed in Scotland. They may have worked together across the pond, as he was a silk merchant who emigrated supposedly around 1830 from Glasgow to New Brunswick, Canada. At some point after arriving he married Elizabeth Sarah Weeks (she of undiscovered heritage), and they began a family in 1832 and moved around between Miramichi and Frederickton NB, as well as some time in the 1850s on Prince Edward Island.

Their son Charles was an itinerant preacher, born in 1841. At some point in 1911-12 he got word that his two uncles in Scotland had passed and left their estate to the New Brunswick family. Charles went over and spent many weeks searching them out. His last letter to his daughter in Maine is online in a book where he spoke of his frustrations. At some point he must have found them, and they must have left sufficient estate for him to book 2nd class on the Titanic. His body was never found.

His next youngest sister, Leavinia Kirkland, is my 3x-great grandmother. She lived out her days to a very old age in and around Woodstock New Brunswick.

I don't have access to Scotland's People, so I have no idea if there is any information that might help me dial in a bit more detail about any of the Kirklands, John or his two brothers. I'm afraid I have precious little else to go on. Canadian records of the day were sometimes decent, sometimes sketchy.

I'd surely be grateful for any ideas, info and/or advice. In advance, I thank you, from the Blue Ridge foothills of northern Virginia.
Andrew
(whose also a McKnight descendant of Ayrshire, and before that of Newtonards, and who knows where before that, but supposedly of the Clan of the Black Douglas. It'd make a fine drinking game :)

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