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My guess would be 1880s and they look to be in their 30s and the lady is wearing a wedding ring...have you seen the lady's brooch in any other of your photos?
Carol

Thank you for the quick reply Carol!  No I haven't seen a similar brooch in any of the other photos.  I'll have to do a search for a likely couple based on this information.  The good news is that I don't think many of the folks that I've assembled so far have lived in that area, or even the wider Glasgow area.  Another Family Historian query required :-)

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I would say that's a good fit......Looks like my guess was right then  ;D
Carol

Yes!  Thank you for your help.  I found it very interesting that the three boys and a girl was actually quite a unique 'signature' to search the tree for a family that could fit.  I was almost expecting to have quite a few choices, but so far this is the only family that fits.  And the fact the the pair of young Hogg photos (dated and verified) were also in the possession of the Frisken family would seem to confirm this as the most likely family.

I can just imagine the letters that may have been sent  "Dear Isabella Barclay, here's a photos of my family, love Isabella Barclay" :D

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Photographer:  J. Kelly  (John Kelly?)
Location: Coatbridge, exact business location unknown
Date of photograph: 1880s-1890s?

No rear markings on the photos.  I've tried to find some info on J. Kelly but so far not found much that's helpful.

I'm only guessing at the date of the photos, a proper estimate by an expert would be very welcome!
Unknown man and woman, presumably a pair as they were kept together.  If anyone can also guess an age for them, I would very much appreciate it! 

Thank you very much again :-)


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I found a candidate family!  I had to go back and review all the families on the side of Isabella Barclay, from photo [1].

So here's how I did it...

I had already identified and placed two named and dated photos (oh, so helpful!) of two HOGG children, George Hogg and Thomas Barclay Hogg born in 1888 and 1893 respectively. 
The only critique of myself that I can offer is that I hadn't placed the photos in my own family tree, but another large tree on Ancestry that I use as a reference for the Berwickshire area.  So each time I scanned my own tree for a good fit family to suit the above photo, I didn't find one...
So I fixed that glitch for myself now  ;D

I've included the photos of the Hogg children here.

The parents of these two boys were William Hogg and Elizabeth Mary Barclay.  The father of Elizabeth Mary Barclay was Thomas Barclay b.1813; he was the younger brother of Isabella Barclay from photo [1].  Thomas was married to Isabella Patterson b.1824.
Elizabeth Mary Barclay was born in 1862.  She had three older brothers - Thomas Barclay b.1856, George Patterson Barclay b.1858 and Joseph Edgley Barclay b.1860.

So how does that fit?  If the photo is for example dated at 1866 then the family would be
Man 53
Woman 42
Boy 10
Boy 8
Boy 6
Girl 4

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Thank you very much for all the helpful feedback you gave me on this one.  I still haven't found any likely candidates from my tree, so I'm missing a family - or I am missing at least one child from a family that I do have.  Both of which are useful outcomes!
I'll keep searching - thanks again  ;D

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What do you think?
Carol

I think your idea makes a lot more sense than mine!  Her age fits much better for Agnes than any other female Walker, and it would seem to be consistent if Agnes' parents have photos of her sibling brothers.

Thank you very much Carol!

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mid-late 1860's.

Thank you for the photo date estimate Jim!

Do you think it's possible that the Walker family sent this photo of Agnes Frisken (born 1821) and wrote "Mrs Walker" (her married name) on the rear?

Or that upon receipt her brother and sister-in-law (George and Isabella from the photo in [1]) had written her married name on the photo?

Would either of these possibilities fit with 'convention' at the time?

I can't make out how old the woman in this photo appears to be, hence the difficulty trying to place it in the tree.

If this photo was taken in the 1860's then Agnes' husband was alive (confirmed by census entry in Newcastle from 1871).

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Thank you for your kind offer Carol, but I think there's a lot of people queueing up for photo enhancements and I've already consumed quite a bit of time here :-)

My own skills are a bit "rusty" (sorry, couldn't resist the pun - with the rust spots on the photo!) but I'll have a go myself.

And of course I'll let you know when I've placed all these lovely folk who feature in the photo set.  I think I may have quite a few of them already, and can see a pattern.

Many thanks again to you all for your help!

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I would say about 1845. This photographer had a studio about that time.

Lionel B.

Hi!  I've looked over all the information I could find about the James Howie line of photographers, and I can't see a reference to any of them running their business from the address of 60 Princes Street.  If you do have a reference I would be interested to read it.

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