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Laois (Queens) / : Despard of Donore photograph album
« on: Thursday 21 January 16 18:04 GMT (UK)  »
I have a large album of 185 photographs that relate to the Depards of Dromore, Queens County, the date I think is late Victorian. There are many family groups, pets, even a pet owl, harvesting, trains, one called Saint Patrick with the number 303, house interiors, houses, farm workers, hunting, carriages and two of an early car.

The Despards look to be a fun loving family.

There are also two carte de visite pictures of two males, both taken in Dublin. One has a contemporary inscription on the back, 'With compliments from the original'.  Not a lot of help to those who did not know him personally!!

Unfortunately most of the photos are without descriptions, but a later hand has written some which I list below I've given brief explanations as to what the pics refer to in brackets:

Pop Despard of Donore.
Mary Despard.
Queens County Hounds. (hounds and three horsemen)
Ernest Despard.
W Despond. (female)
Second cousin Mary (could be Margaret) Elizabeth.
Harry Franks Westfield.
Donore, early days. (against a picture of what must be Donore house)
Mary Despard.
Wellesley Despard.
Captain Boxer.
Wellesley Despard?
Kilcaanly (poor handwriting, above a pic of a large house)
Pop's horses, Donore.

There is one of a smart lady in a gig in a town/village, behind her is a premise called Moyles Warehouse.

I know nothing about the family but I am happy to scan any pictures that may be of interest.




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Armed Forces / Re: 99th Regiment of Foot
« on: Saturday 09 January 16 22:24 GMT (UK)  »

Thank you Ken,

I'm due a trip there, so I will add the 99th to the list.

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Armed Forces / Re: 99th Regiment of Foot
« on: Saturday 09 January 16 18:43 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you, I am only 20 or so miles from Salisbury! I did not know that the expression was related to the 99th, how interesting.

I see you have interests in Wickham and Essex. My wife is a Du Cane, her grandfather sold Braxted Park in the 20's. A branch of the family lived at The Grove in Wickham for many years.

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Tipperary / Re: William Hewetson Mathew 1804-1889
« on: Saturday 09 January 16 18:24 GMT (UK)  »
What a fantastic surprise, I had never seen William's gravestone before, thank you very much Hallmark.


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Armed Forces / 99th Regiment of Foot
« on: Saturday 09 January 16 17:45 GMT (UK)  »
I have found from the wedding certificate of William Hewetson Mathew, Sub Inspector RIC, born 1803 in Tipperary that his father William, served as a Lieutenant in the 99th Regiment of Infantry.

I found that the 99th had been raised and disbanded several times but that the fourth “99th” were raised Tipperary Ireland in 1803, on the renewal of the war with France, and entitled “The Prince of Wales’s Tipperary Regiment,” which served in the West Indies and in Canada.

Interestingly I have found that two Colonels of the regiment at that time were Lord Viscount Mathew and the Honourable Montague Mathew!

Surely co incidences.

Does anyone know anything about the regiments time in Tip before they left for the West Indies and Canada?

Glenn




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Tipperary / Re: William Hewetson Mathew 1804-1889
« on: Saturday 09 January 16 15:48 GMT (UK)  »
I now have William and Anna's marriage certificate. Unfortunately I have not heard of the witnesses before, but it does say that William's father was another William and that he had been a Lieutenant in the 99th Regt of Infantry. I  know William Jnr was born in Tipperary and i have found that a 99th regt of foot was raised in that county but was disbanded. The 99th seem to have been appeared and disappeared several times. I can't find anything on Ancestry nor on the Imperial War Museum site, which says a lot of early service records were destroyed during WW2. I'm guessing that William senior would have been serving around the time of his son's birth and maybe up to Waterloo.


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Tipperary / Re: William Hewetson Mathew 1804-1889
« on: Monday 04 January 16 18:56 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you very much for your guidance.



 

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Tipperary / Re: William Hewetson Mathew 1804-1889
« on: Monday 04 January 16 00:01 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for your findings, I will look into obtaining the wills tomorrow. Are they held at PRONI?

I thought most Irish wills were destroyed, and I have not applied for any before.

The Maxwell's family fortunes were halted by the recklessness of Thomas's father, William Hamilton Maxwell, who squandered both his and his wife's inheritances and also every penny he made from writing. He was declared bankrupt twice and spent time residing in The Fleet prison.

I do know that Sarah, her husband Thomas Dobbin Maxwell, William Archibald Kidd and Thomas Augustus Prentice jointly owned a property in Tandragee, circa 1867. Also that the eldest children from Mathew's marriage to Jessie Ann Kidd, benefitted from the income accrued from a £500 marriage settlement created by William Lodge Kidd, Jessie's father.

I am not surprised that W A Kidd left over £13.000, the Kidd family as a whole, were very capable people, and like the  Prentices, good at making money and holding onto it. I think that by 1892 the Kidd/Maxwell connection was fairly tenuous.

I have ordered a copy of William and Anne's marriage certificate, to see who the witnesses were.

Hugh Willis Thomson had children from his first marriage and I think both he and Sarah were living fairly hand to mouth on Hugh's professional earnings. I see though, that their house, Riversdale is substantial, but I do not know if it was owned by them. It still survives, and in good condition.

I can't see why stepmother Anna would have felt forced to send the youngest children for adoption when she knew that their adult half brother and two half sisters were capable and willing to support them at their own expense.

On our mantlepiece we have a poignant image of William Mathew and Sarah together when She was about ten years old, innocent of the tragic events that lay ahead.

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Tipperary / Re: William Hewetson Mathew 1804-1889
« on: Sunday 03 January 16 16:11 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for your reply, and I would welcome any information that you might find regarding this family.

It is mentioned that Mathew's first wife Jessie Anne was buried in a Kidd grave in Armagh, possibly with Sarah (Sally) her mother. Sarah's father, William Lodge Kidd has a memorial window in St. Marks cathedral.

In this string Keith Dawson says that Mathew's second wife Anne died at Belfast and was buried at Killyman.

I may be speculating, but I think I know why Anne Sophia's existence was left out of the contemporary material we have from that time. We have a recollection from Charles Leonard Dobbin Maxwell, a grandson and executor of William Hewetson Mathew's who would have known his stepmother very well and yet he and all of his siblings omit to mention her.

I do not want to be harsh to Anne's memory but I think there is a very good reason for this and this new discovery about her marrying William could be the missing piece of this family puzzle.

To explain I need to jump forward a generation down from Sarah to her second eldest daughter Mary Jane Dobbin Maxwell born 1886, by her marriage to Thomas Dobbin Maxwell.

In Sheffield in 1891, Mary (May) a nurse, married John William Staniforth M.D.

John kept a journal and in it he writes about Mary's Irish family.

John gives hint of the existence of Anna Sophia, but in a disguised way, describing her as an aunt. I think it is because Jack was not directly connected to the tragic events that unfolded at Belturbet that he felt able to record what happened. 

As I have said before, Mathew's daughter Sarah married Thomas Dobbin Maxwell. They produced four children, Jessie Wilhelmina, she died of consumption aged 21 and is buried with her father in Lisnaskea, Mary Jane Dobbin, Leonard Dobbin and Thomasina Olivia Maud (initials Tom after her father).

Thomas died in March 1871 and Sarah and the four children moved from Lisnaskea to Belturbet to live with her father, and now it seems, her step mother Anna Sophia. In January 1879 Sarah married Hugh Willis Thomson M.D. (it was also his second marriage) They lived at Riversdale House, Belturbet.

Hugh and Sarah had five children, Benjamin, Hugh, James Dalziel, Kathleen Johanna and Phyllis Eileen.

Hugh died May 29th 1885 and Sarah and their four youngest children, one only five weeks old, moved back to live with her father William and presumably her step mother Anna Sophia.

Two years later Sarah died and was buried with the Kidds in Armagh. At about the same time, Benjamin Thomson died. The remaining four children continued to live with their grandfather and step grand mother.

On I June 1889 William died, leaving the four children orphans.

It is here that I quote from John Staniforth's journal; which he addressed to his children

"Dear old Mr Mathew had been both father and mother to them, and when he was gone they had practically nobody to turn to for guidance and support"

He goes on: "Under these circumstances your mother (Jane Mary Dobbin Staniforth), Ina and Leonard decided to put all of their money into a common fund, and to make themselves responsible for the education and upbringing of their little brothers and sisters. This was tyrannically over ruled by a certain Aunt, whose name I need not mention, and almost before they knew what was happening, all four children had been spirited away. They were told at the time that they would never know what had become of the children; but after a long and painstaking inquiries they subsequently found that they had all been adopted". 

"Kathleen was adopted by a Dr Robinson, of Sheffield. Phyllis by a certain Miss Skarrett, also in England, I am not sure if they ever heard who had adopted Hugh and James. At any rate, they never saw either of the boys again"

 
It was during Mary's search for the adopted Kathleen that she met John.

Unknown to Mary, in December 1894 an appeal was published in the London Standard by the Royal Asylum of St Anne's Society, Redhill Surrey, by a Miss Kersteman of Dublin for sponsors for Hugh aged 10. Beyond St Anne's I have not been able to find anything more about what happened to him between 1889 and 1894 or after that.

James died in a shipwreck off Cape Horn aged 18.
 

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