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Pembrokeshire / Re: Arthur Barlow Slebech
« on: Sunday 31 January 16 21:37 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Lefayre, thanks for the quick reply. My connection with the Barlow family is through the marriage of my 3x great grandmother's sister. She was Jeanette Crowther and married Arthur Craven Barlow.

Jeanette and Arthur went to America from England and lived in New York. The Crowther family had a carpet factory at West Farms (now part of the Bronx) and Jeanette's brother Richard managed the business there. Through Crowther contacts in England I have an image of Arthur Craven Barlow who died in 1852 and I also have a bad copy of a photograph taken of Jeanette Barlow around 1880.

That pic lead me to take a look at other Barlows in Victoria as beside Jeanette in the photo is a young girl of about 6 or eight and she does not fit anywhere in my Umbers family. Jeanette was the aunt of my great great grandfather Frank Umbers, (Umbers is my maiden name)

You are no doubt aware of the Barlows in Victoria; A couple of Arthur's brothers came to Victoria and now I am talking from memory without consulting files, an Emily Barlow was there too, married a policeman I think. I will have to dig out my files to properly check, but ignore me if you already have all this information and can recall it easily in order.

You didn't mention if you realised the connection of Captain Moonlites grave, or if you had just visited it as a tourist attraction? I bought a book about him, published in the 60's after I found the connection and there is still a fair bit of conjecture about his real story from what I can gather.

When trying to pinpoint the date of the photograph with Jeanette Barlow in it (and five of the six sons of my ancester Frank Umbers, plus the little girl and also Frank) I have tried to pinpoint the year of Jeanette's visit but could not find any likely Barlow's on the ships passenger lists.

I often scout around for random family info and the photograph I am talking about came from a chap in Greenwood, Indiana who is a descendant of Jeanette and Arhtur's. He has a diary of Jeanette's dated 1851 or so and kindly sent me the photo, although a really bad scanned copy. I have been unable to keep in touch with him so have no details of the diary which he found in a house on the death of his grandmother I believe.

I am happy to share what information I have; if you would prefer to email privately let me know, kind regards Joanne


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Pembrokeshire / Re: Arthur Barlow Slebech
« on: Friday 29 January 16 22:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I wonder how you went in finding any reason for the inclusion of "Craven" in the Barlow name. My connection is through my ancester Jeanette Crowther who was born 1819 in England who married Arthur Craven Barlow. They lived in New York up until their deaths (1891 and 1852 respectively) and are both buried at Yonkers in New York.

I have recently come across a photograph which shows Jeanette visiting her nephew Frank Umbers (my great great grandfather) in Victoria, Australia which I think I can place at about 1880 or 1881 and led me to investigate the line a little further.

I found that Arthur Craven Barlow had siblings in Australia;

From the Argus Newspaper (a Melbourne Victoria newspaper)

BARLOW. On the 7th inst, at his residence, Park 
street, Parkville, James, sixth son of the late
Thomas William Barlow, for many years solicitor to   
Board of Ordnance in Ireland, late of the National
Bank in this city, aged 47 years. (7th November 1883)

BARLOW- LEE.  On the 25th ult., at St. Mark's 
Church, by the Rev. Robert B. Barlow, James
Barlow, son of the late Thomas William Barlow,
Esq., of Dublin, to Alice Florence, daughter of
Richard E. Lee, Esq., of Melbourne, civil engineer. (25th April 1867)

Arthur Craven Barlows parents were Thomas William Barlow and Anne Jeffares.

Ann had a sibling Bessie Jeffares who married Thomas Scott, an Anglican clergyman who immigrated to New Zealand. Bessie and Thomas had two sons, one of whom was:

 Andrew George Scott (1842-1880), bushranger, self-styled 'Captain Moonlite', was born at Rathfriland, County Down, Ireland, and baptized on 5 July 1842, son of Thomas Scott, Anglican clergyman, and his wife Bessie, née Jeffares.

I wonder if you have made this connection at all?

My ancestors Mr and Mrs Arthur Craven and Jeannette Barlow had two children; Arthur William Barlow and Laviniah Frances Barlow. They both lived in America and died respectively 1925 and 1926.
Yours Joanne Armstrong, Hobart, Australia



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