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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Sophia Janetta Anderson born 1847
« on: Monday 30 January 23 06:50 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you every one for your responses so far.
 We have  William Henry Anderson's family history once he married his second wife  Mary Ann Wood Whitehead in 1862, in Sydney. William Henry was my great, great grandfather through his daughter Emily Augusta Wood Anderson (b.26/11/56 d.1928). William Henry Anderson arrived in Sydney on the 'Cyclone' 15/5/1854 as the only passenger. Though listed as a Sea Captain,  a newspaper report  (1853) has him as a 'supercargo'. Why he came to Australia is unknown. Did he just not return to London after delivering his shipment?  William Henry Anderson did not marry  Mary Ann Wood Whitehead until 1862. Somewhere in my searching (can't find the reference at the moment)  I recorded that Jemima Anderson died in 1859. Can anyone confirm this?
I am still searching for any records of Sophia Anderson (Fowler) b. 1847 after the 1861 census. The closest I've come to a marriage, that would fit the timeline in anyway, is a marriage to Alexander Ridell in 1861 but have not found proof that this is correct.
The census record for 1871 Cranes Cottage could not be our William as, by this time he was living in Sydney. The  'Anderson Family Tree'  has been researched and can be followed from 1597. As with many families it becomes rather complex and confusing with all the names being repeated. There are still some gaps to be filled and the Jemima Fowler union is one that I would really like to solve. Along with the allusive Crawford Allen b. 9/5/1855 at Caramana, County Galway, Ireland.
Thank you once again l your help so far in my search.
Jillian.  (Brisbane, Aust)

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Family History Beginners Board / Sophia Janetta Anderson born 1847
« on: Sunday 29 January 23 12:26 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to find information on Sophia Janetta Anderson b 1847  to Jemima  (nee)Fowler  and William Henry Anderson. She was listed on the 1851 census as a 3 year old living at 5 Aberdeen Place Marylebone and in 1861 she is listed as a 13 year old  scholar, visitor at the residence of James and Annie Postlewaite (sp?) and large family, still in Marylebone.  I have information that her mother Jemima - (daughter of James Fowler and Sophia Wood) died in 1859 .We have lost track of her after this as by the next census she had probably married. No Marriage or death certs have been located as yet. There is a lot of information re some of Jemima's, Fowler family, however not a lot about her. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
 Thank you
Jillian  (Brisbane Aust)

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Hertfordshire / Re: ANDERSON, William Henry Esq died 1819 Cheshunt, Hertfordshire
« on: Tuesday 14 June 16 03:24 BST (UK)  »
Thankyou for your help and now I have some newly acquired info for your records. This information has  just been passed onto me from a relation of Robert Milligan Anderson.

"Re the Anderson Directors after William of Highwoods death in 1825. There was a Gillespie and Reuben Glasgow Kestin among others.
The  sons, Henry, Duncan, Hugh and Robert were all educated at Harrow then went into their fathers firm; Henry only for a short while.Duncan, Hugh and Robert all became Directors. Duncan died of TB while fairly young, as did his own two sons in their early twenties. London was a very unhealthy place to live in the mid 1800's and sugar dust could cause all sorts of lung ailments too.
Hugh died 1884 .
Robert carried on till 1870 by which time one of Roberts sons had taken over.
The firm carried on till sometime around the turn of the century, but by then sugar was not such a money spinner. Something called "Foreign Bounties" and the collapse in value of sugar plantations - most of which had become worthless - made continuation in the industry pointless."
All very interesting. That's another part of the family history solved. Much more to find out.
Thanks Jillian

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Thank you again Sugarbaker for all your help. It was interesting reading all about the Broker area in Swining Street and the surrounding district and to learn about that aspect of the English economy in the 1800’s. I was wondering if you knew or had a record of who took over the Anderson Brokerage Business after 1825 when William Anderson (Senior) died. William Henry (nephew) had already died in 1819 just after the partnership with Duncan Davidson Milligan was dissolved. You noted that the Anderson Sugar Brokers was still in existence through to at least 1865. William b1761 did have both a son, William Archibald b 1801 and may be (I can’t remember where I found this snippet) a son-in-law William Anderson  ( his daughter Ann’s husband). If the brokerage continued to be run by a William Anderson it would more than likely have to have been one of these gentlemen.

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Hi Sugarbaker
I was just wanting to find out if William and William Henry were Sugar Brokers or Coffee Brokers or may be both. Entries in the London Gazette record  many entries much the same as the following.  "100 Casks and 300 Bags Plantation coffee samples to be seen No6 Mincing lane, where catalogues may be had. WM Anderson. Broker..." 18 June 1818.
The Andersons must have continued as brokers after the dissolution of the partnership with Duncan Davidson Milligan as his name was no longer used in the advertisements. I have found information stating that the Mincing lane area was known as a centre of tea,spices and opium however coffee was not mentioned.
Just curious.   Can you shed any light on this?
Thanks JillAnd

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It appears that Alexander Anderson b. 1755 married  Jane the daughter of William and Ann (nee Davidson) Anderson. he was not their son. We have yet to find out  Alexander's relationship (thought to be a cousin). Jane and Alexander lived at the house at Udol as her older brother William was working in London.
JillAnd

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The Witnesses at Justina's wedding were her parents William and Ann (nee Deffell) and the other Ann could possibly be her grandmother Ann (nee Davidson).William and Ann's (Deffell), issue were  Carolyn 1796, Ann 1875, Justina 1799, William Archibald 1800, John 1802, Henry 1804, Hugh1808, and Duncan1807,Robert Milligan1811 and Emily.
JillAnd

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Hertfordshire / Re: ANDERSON, William Henry Esq died 1819 Cheshunt, Hertfordshire
« on: Tuesday 07 June 16 15:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi Whirlybird.
Thank you, yes I had seen the Little Red Riding Hood painting but did not know the connection to the family. The only family resemblance to the painting is the fact that I named my daughter Emily. I knew it was a family name (my dad’s sister was Margaret Emily and there were obviously others.) At the time of her birth, the name Emily was not at all as popular as it is now.
As there are a few confusing posts on the site could you confirm that your husband is related to Robert Milligan A. 1811, whose parents were William and Ann Deffell, with siblings Carolyn 1796, Ann 1875, Justina 1799, William Archibald 1800, John 1802, Henry 1804, Hugh1808, and Duncan1807. I have read a Rootschat source saying Robert Milligan A. d 1819 age 79 at Highwood Hill Middlesex and Udoll Cromarty source 28 July 1819. This can’t be your Robert Milligan, can it?                       
Help!!! Another site www.merchantnetworks.com.au/genealogy/web/davidsonhenry/pafg06.htm.[/url] Entry 26, lists Justina 1799,William, Hugh, Henry and Emily as William and Ann Deffell. (no Robert, John, Caroline or Ann). Very confusing.
The link I have formed to Gilbert Anderson (1597)is Hugh Anderson (1633) who married Grizel Row, their issue Alexander (1672) Rev in Duffus  married Elizabeth Trent ,their issue William. Is this our William who married Ann Davidson? Do I have this right or am I on the wrong track?
It was interesting to see that the connection to William and Ann (Davidson) is actually through Jane Anderson not Alexander. Do we know where Alexander Anderson (1755) fits in? I’ll look into trying to find out if William (1761) had a brother or a nephew Alexander. One more question (no really I have 100's more) Did The Viscount Tarbat (George Mackenzie) have a connection to  the family or did he give  the land to the Andersons in his role of Lord Chief Registra? I would like to see your photo of Robert. I have a photo of 4 people ,Mother and 3 adult children, that we can't place. Thought it may be my great grandmother and her children, Myrtle, Muriel and Crawford Eric Lesley Anderson however Myrtle's daughter could not identify them.
Bye for now
Jillian.

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Thank you  both Whirlybird and Sugarbaker for your help and interest. As my cousin Barb has said we are really grateful. I am new to the Ancestry Searching and Barb is so experienced and good at knowing all the ins and outs. The Scottish naming system certainly makes things confusing and the fact that they seem to marry their relatives doesn’t help!  We have also found this with an Anderson relative who married her cousin ( we think) in Aust in1873. The marriage was performed by the infamous Rev Fullerton and no details of parents were recorded. I will need some time to digest the new information. So much of the information  you find can be contradictory and misleading and we make sure we have DP. I just wish I had asked my Dad lots of questions. I can remember when I was about 10 my dad threw out some rather large oil paintings in large frames of very serious looking gentlemen. Why! Oh Why! From memory the paintings were rather dark. He had them stored in the garage roof and they had apparently been damaged by damp and maybe mice. I presume he got them from his dad  (Crawford Eric Lesley Anderson)and they may have not been in good condition when he got them. These in turn would have come from his grandmother Emily Augusta Wood Anderson. It was from her that the photo of the painting of Alexander of Udol ,that we posted on the site , came. It’s interesting you make reference to Charles 11. I can remember my dad saying that his family was related to Bonnie Prince Charlie -we always joked that it was probably on the wrong side of the bed clothes!! You never know we may have a connection too. I was thinking that it was probably just through association during the Scottish wars.
Any info you have re WH Anderson d 1819 would help us  fill in a gap as we have little info on him
Thanks Jillian (Bris Australia )

It seems that Barb has just replied as well.

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