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The Common Room / Re: Bridget Keaveney, Caveney,Koweney ??
« on: Friday 19 August 22 09:51 BST (UK)  »
I have a Kaveney connection in my Dolan line.
BRIGID KAVENEY (no dob) married PETER DOLAN (c1812 to 22/2/1879
They were married on 2/3/1840 at Kilkeevan, Castlerea
and had at least 6 children – Mary, Patrick, John, Michael, Patrick and Brigid
Obviously these children would go by the surname of Dolan and my BRIGID KAVENEY would be born sometime on or before 1820.

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Roscommon / Re: MICHAEL DOLAN AND MARY ANNE BROWNE
« on: Wednesday 17 August 22 15:30 BST (UK)  »
I had not found these myself, they were given to me by someone that was following the Keaveny line.

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Roscommon / Re: MICHAEL DOLAN AND MARY ANNE BROWNE
« on: Wednesday 17 August 22 12:23 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Sinnan, it is so lovely to get this, as a tribute to my great-grandfather, Michael Dolan.

He married MARY ANNE BROWNE on the 10th June 1880 at the Roman Catholic Church, Kilmurry, Co. Roscommon. Michael was listed as being from Kilkeevan, a Sherpherd, aged 26 years and Mary Anne from Brownhill, a farmer’s daughter, aged 24 years. Michael Dolan was a Tenant of the Herd for Minor Young, owner of Harristown House and there were more than 50 sidecars at the ceremony.

He must have been a very popular man in the area with such big turn-outs at both his wedding and funeral.

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Roscommon / Re: MICHAEL DOLAN AND MARY ANNE BROWNE
« on: Wednesday 17 August 22 11:28 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Heywood. I actually had most of those you found, but not all of the dates, so it was good to be able to cross-check. Patrick (23/7/1853) is of interest, as I had another Patrick born 26/1/1847 that may have died young and the Patrick born in 1853 may have been named after his deceased brother.
Thank you so much for your finds. I appreciate your time.

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Roscommon / Re: MICHAEL DOLAN AND MARY ANNE BROWNE
« on: Wednesday 17 August 22 04:20 BST (UK)  »
In the Westmeath Independent of 22 Oct 1938 there is a piece in the Castlerea Notes on the death of Michael Dolan Ballinapark which gives his age as 88.

Thank you also Sinann. I am not sure of the connection to Castlerea with the Westmeath Independent for carrying an obituary. This is indeed interesting. Are you able to copy and send the text to me of the piece. I would be very grateful.

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Roscommon / Re: MICHAEL DOLAN AND MARY ANNE BROWNE
« on: Wednesday 17 August 22 04:16 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Heywood, I find searching some of these files hard, maybe it is my bad eyesight. The writing is not always easy and with the mixture of latin, it is sometimes missed by me. What I have noticed is the very large amount of data for each day, each week and subsequently each year when Ireland's population was at its peak. I will certainly search those links you provided. I am very grateful to you for your help and it makes a big difference for me with such help.

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Roscommon / MICHAEL DOLAN AND MARY ANNE BROWNE
« on: Tuesday 16 August 22 07:02 BST (UK)  »
Just been adding up some dates of my great grandparents based on documents found on the internet in an effort to calculate their ages at the time of their deaths. I am hoping a fresh pair or eyes might spot something that is not correct, and/or anyone who is researching the same line that have more accurate details. Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I have not been able to find an exact birth date for MICHAEL DOLAN of Arm, Ballinapark, Roscommon or his wife MARY ANNE (BROWNE) DOLAN of Brownhill, townland of Lissalway, Roscommon to confirm their correct age at their time of death. The earliest documents are their marriage certificate, dated 10th June 1880, which lists Michael as 26 years old and Mary Anne as 24 years old at that time. If this were correct, and allowing for a year either way depending on a birthday before or after that date, Michael would have been born in 1854 and Mary Anne in 1856 (two years difference in age).(two years difference in age).

In the Census of Ireland taken on the 31st March 1901, both of them were listed as being 40 years of age, indicating that Michael and Mary Anne would have been both born in 1861 (no difference in age).

Ten years later in the Census of Ireland taken on the 2nd April 1911, Michael was listed as 58 years old and Mary Anne as 55 years old. If this were correct, and again allowing for a year either way, Michael would have been born in 1853 and Mary Anne in 1856 (three years difference in age).

In the column “completed years of marriage” they wrote 30 years, which would be 1881, just one year more than the date on their actual marriage certificate. As the marriage certificate is a legal docment and the date registered four days later on the 14th June 1880, it would be fair to say that on the 1911 census form, Michael put 30 years married as a round figure. Their first born child, Peter Dolan, was born in 1881.

The Old Age Pensions Act 1908 introduced a non-contributory pension for ‘eligible’ people aged 70 and over. It came into law in January 1909 in Ireland and as a result, there were a lot of intentional mis-reporting or “age-heaping”, apparently expecting this to help secure an earlier claim for a pension, which certainly accounts for the larger discrepancies in age, and the 6 year increase, as Michael and Mary Anne also took advantage of gaining an allowance once they reached 70, in a time where birth certificates, or documented proof of age, were not required.

When Michael died on the 10th October 1938, he was listed as being 92 years old, which would mean he was born in 1846 and when Mary Anne died on the 14th March 1937 she was listed as 74 years of age on her death certificate, which means she would have been born in 1863, presuming these ages are correct and again allowing for one year. However such details are not always accurate as birth certificates and such documents were not freely available to compare and often the family, or those who were present at death, were never exactly sure of the correct age of their parents and the age on the death certificate was more assumed than exact. The headstone in Castlerea Graveyard bears no age either but the above age gap of 17 years is certainly incorrect.

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Wiltshire / Re: Help Please! – BAYNTON/BAYNTUN family of Bromham Wiltshire
« on: Sunday 31 October 21 10:27 GMT (UK)  »
The Bayntun website is back online again and I am working on it as I have a lot more information to add to it. I have also been trying to get some concrete info on the early generations of the family but having to insert new pages and revamp the website it going to take me a long time, so hopefully before or after Christmas. I also have a new email address.

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Wiltshire / Re: Help Please! – BAYNTON/BAYNTUN family of Bromham Wiltshire
« on: Friday 07 May 21 15:51 BST (UK)  »
I also wish to point out that I no longer use the email address attached to my original posting as I have changed my internet server in recent years. I know of no way that I can be contacted unless through these pages as I believe it is forbidden to include email addresses in any postings.

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