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Ireland / Re: researching Fyffe/Murphy/McMurchie/Hawthorn/Campbell
« on: Friday 19 May 06 14:38 BST (UK)  »
Thanks ticker
I have tried some of them but haven't been through them all yet.

I had a little bit of bother with the Irish sites when I started because they all seemed to need to know which county to look in, or I had to go through each county one at a time.

I kind of have a better idea of where I am going now, but i'll give these sites another try

Thanks
john

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Perthshire / Re: Donaldson/McRaw marriage 1767
« on: Friday 19 May 06 14:28 BST (UK)  »
Thats a shame.

I went down from Inverness to the Dundee library a couple of weeks ago to look up various Dundee connections and also to have a look at their Perthshire files, but could find no further mention of the ones I am researching.

Just need to keep looking
thanks for answering

John

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Perthshire / Re: Donaldson/McRaw marriage 1767
« on: Monday 08 May 06 14:11 BST (UK)  »
I was interested in your link to Patrick Donaldson and Margaret McRaw and their wedding in 1767.

I also have a similar surname link to Perthshire and I wondered if you had any further information on the McRaw side.

I have a Jane or Jean McRae on my tree.  She spells her name various different ways - MacRae / MacCraw / McCraw

She was married to a John Doctor but I am not sure where - probably between 1800 - 1810.  However, all of their children were born in Cargill.

Jane/Jeam's father was Donald MacRae and he could be a related to your Margaret - probably as a child if there is a link.

Jane / Jean was born in ABT 1784 which would make her fathers dob ABT 20-30 years earlier. - say 1754/1764 which fits in with your dates.

Does any of this ring a bell with you?

John


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Perthshire / Re: a farm called Pepperknows
« on: Monday 13 March 06 00:12 GMT (UK)  »
can I ask what your connection with pepperknowes is?

I am looking for connections to the Patullo family that lived there at one time.  I have information that my GGGG Grand uncle James Patullo was born there ABT 1787.  He married Agnes Craigie.

Does this fit into your own research.

By 1791 they had moved to Nethermains where Anne Patullo, my direct line descendant was born

I am looking to get further back than this.  Their parents were George Patullo and Mary Hall who lived in the St Madoes area, but I can't find any links past them.

Does this ring any bells with you?

John

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Ireland / researching Fyffe/Murphy/McMurchie/Hawthorn/Campbell
« on: Friday 17 February 06 00:18 GMT (UK)  »
I am having difficulty in getting started on any research for some Irish descendants.  I have no idea where about in Ireland they came from and all of the sites I have been on seen to be divided into the different counties.

I have in my tree a Daniel Murphy who was born about 1832.  I don't know where he was born but it could be somewhere in Ireland or it could be in the Glasgow or Dundee areas in Scotland.

He married a Irish born girl called Margaret Fyffe.  They married in Dundee in 1851.  

My information is that he was in the armed forces and served in Ireland and in India.  He had at least one son born in India and I think he may have been there for some time.  This makes me think that he served in Ireland before he moved to India

From the dates I have, my guess is that he served in Ireland at a very young age, and met his wife there, moving to Dundee and getting married when Margaret was only 18 years old and he was about 19.

Margaret's parents were John Fyffe and Catherine Campbell, and again it is a guess, but I would guess that they were from Ireland, but location not known.

The location of Daniels birth is confusing, and I am not sure if he was Scotish or Irish.  He, and the next two generations of his family, steadily changed their name from Murphy to McMurchie.  I know that this would fit in with the Irish Gaelic version of Murphy but I haven't heard of Murphy in the Scottish Highlands as a local name so it is unlikely that it is based on Scottish Gaelic.

His parents were Neil Murphy and Marjory Hawthorn.  They were married in 1830, probably in Scotland.  Marjory was born ABT 1808 and died in a poor house in Dundee in 1881.  Her birth place is given as Neilston in Glasgow, which is one of he reasons I think they probably were married in Scotland.  I have no other information about Neil.

Marjory's parents were James Hawthorn and Marjory ?????.  It is not possible to read the certificate because of the poor standard of writing but as a guess it could be Andrews or Anderson from the shapes of some of the letters.

It's not a lot to go on but if anyone is looking in the same area as this and they have any other information I would be glad to hear from them.

John

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Perthshire / family names I'm looking for
« on: Thursday 16 February 06 23:54 GMT (UK)  »
I am beginning to make heavy work of some of the branches of my tree and wondered if anyone else was looking in the same areas as me.

The names in Perthshire I am looking for on this branch are

David Baillie - b BEF 1825 probably Errol
married to Mary Angus (b ABT 1809 - d Longforgan 1873)

They had at least 3 children that I am aware of - Mary Jonas Baillie, Alexander Fleming Baillie and Ann Baillie (born in Longforgan and Errol)

Mary's parents were James Angus and Ann Allan but I don't know much more about them.

I am guessing that David Baillie's parents might include a Fleming, probably his mothers maiden name, because this is a common name in future generations but the root of it has not yet surfaced.

I am also looking to get further back with a Peter Shepherd
He married Mary Burry (Burrow/Burrogh/Borrie depending on which certificate I look at) in St Maddoes in 1838  He died after 1886 but have not been able to find the death certificate on scotlandspeople.gov.uk yet

Mary was born ABT 1823 and died in 1886.

They had at least 4 children that I know of - James Burry Shepherd, Mary Shepherd, Thomas Shepherd and David Shepherd born in Longforgan and Errol.

Mary's parents were James Burry and Mary Ann ?????.  The certificate has very poor handwriting and I am having difficulty reading it.

The other Perthshire names I have been researching are

Doctor, Henderson, MacRae, Smith (all Cargill), Grimmond, and Marr (both Dron)

Is anyone out there working in the same area?

John


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Ross & Cromarty / McRae / Morison and Voy family questions
« on: Thursday 16 February 06 00:28 GMT (UK)  »
I have been trying for a while to get back further in my Highland family connections without any luck.

I have a Roderick McRae (born Urray ABT 1798) who was married to Ann Morison (born Urray ABT 1803).  The location is through family word of mouth so may not be 100% accurate.  However I have certificate evidence that they had some of their family in Urray - Alexander (b 17/12/1822), Catherine (b 16/11/1824) and Murdoch (b 15/9/1826) all in Urray.  They then moved to Kilmorack and had a son called Donald (laterly known as Daniel) in Beauly on 26/1/1829.

They then moved to Dundee where the family have been ever since.

Roderick was employed as a wood sawer in any certificates and censuses that I can find.

Rodericks parents were Roderick McRae (flesher) and Mary Voy.  Other than their names gained from death certificates I know nothing about them.

Ann Morisons parents were Murdoch Morison (crofter) and Catherine Morison (MS).  Again I know nothing about them.

I would like to get further back but do not know if they moved to the area when married and started their family there or were always resident here.

I have looked through the parish registers in the Inverness library but the quality of the file is poor and not easy to read for these dates, so it is difficult to get any other information.  I have also looked through the IGI data without any success.

Does anyone have any of these people in their tree or can anyone suggest other areas where I can continue searching?

Thanks for any help
John

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Fife / WHYTT family from Ferry Port on Craig - plus other Fife interests
« on: Friday 13 January 06 00:12 GMT (UK)  »
I have a few connections in Fife, but probably the easiest one to start researching is the WHYTT family in Ferry Port on Craig because of the unusual spelling.

It appears that the spelling changes over time to the more usual White which does not help research.

I am back as far as JAMES WHYTT born about 1757 (but I don't know where) and married to AGNES BERRIE on 6/10/1786.

They had 10 children that I have found, called David, John, James, Watson, Agnes, Catherine, Thomas, William, Margaret and Betty (births ranging from 3/12/1786 to 7/8/1810 all in Ferry Port on Craig).

Agnes's parents were JOHN BERRIE and MARGARET WATSON and Agnes was born on 8/8/1766 in Ferry Port on Craig.

There was also 4? other children in the house that I now of.  Katherine is the youngest one I have found.  The others are Margaret, John and John.

The two Johns are confusing and are listed in the parish record as being born 15 months apart.  I am guessing that the first one died very young and the second one was called after the first one, or they had middle names that seperated them.

If anyone can take me back further I would be grateful.

Some of my other Fife connections are

David STEWART married to Janet BUTTER in Newburgh (29/4/1823)
Children found so far are Charles, Margaret and David.

James LOUDEN married to Janet BETT in Abdie (24/11/1793)
Only child found so far is John Louden (ABT 1797) who married Barbara CLARK (Logie 15/12/1832) and had 8 children.  Although not a direct decendant of mine one less well known name in the family was Leitch Louden which might make a link easier to find.

Barbara Clarks parents seem to have been James CLARK and Janet SCOTT.

Any help with links for these would also be gratefully accepted.

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Orkney / voy - possible family link to orkney
« on: Saturday 31 December 05 01:50 GMT (UK)  »
I am in the middle of trying to find old members of my family and I have come to a stop with a Mary Voy, which from the research done could be an Orkney based name.

I have searched the highland records in Inverness and the records on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk but have found nothing.

She was married to a Roderick McRae, and had one son that I know of. 

He was also called Roderick McRae and was born in Urray ABT 1798.  This Roderick died on 3/3/1883 in Dundee aged 85 and the writting is clear enough to be sure that I have the correct name in Mary Voy.

This would put Mary's birth probably before 1782.

The only link I have found is to a Margaret Matches and John Voy but this seems too early to be parents.

I don't know where her or her husband were born, or died and whether there were any other children.

Does anyone have any links to a Mary Voy that they could inform me about.

Thanks for your help
John

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