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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Elizabeth Ann Jackson
« on: Tuesday 25 April 17 21:36 BST (UK)  »
I'll try and answer both the questions here.  We don't know any of Elizabeth Ann Jackson's history before she was married.  From other information we believe (but haven't confirmed) that her parents were William Jackson and Mary Ann Jackson (nee Hunt).

I'm interested in the Hawkes Bay Area as
1. Elizabeth Ann Jackson's death record states she was born in the Coromandel
2. Elizabeth and Thomas were married in Napier
3. All records of their married life (children, electoral roll etc.) are based in Napier
4. Elizabeth Ann and Thomas were both buried in Napier
5. Elizabeth Ann's death record states her father was a sailor
6. Family legend says that Elizabeth Ann's father was involved in whaling

Intention to Marry details
Thomas Neagle (we know he was a soldier in the British army, discharged in Napier)
Ann Jackson
Spinster
Domestic Servant
Age 22 (placing her year of birth around 1840, which ties in with other information we've found)
Dwelling Place: Tennyson St, Napier
Length of Residence: 2 years
Place where marriage to be solemnised: Episcopalian Church, Napier (believed to be the original St John the Evangelist)
Date of Certificate 25 October 1862
Officiating Minister Revd N W St Hill

Their marriage certificate states that they were married on 3 November 1862.  Witnessed by Samuel Taylor, Labourer, Napier and Elizabeth [I can't make out the last name].

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Elizabeth Ann Jackson
« on: Monday 24 April 17 23:31 BST (UK)  »
I've finally got a copy of the Intention to Marry, which doesn't shed much more light on things.  It confirms her age at the time of her marriage, which is different to what was declared at her death, and tells us the occupations her and Thomas.  It also gives us the streets they lived in at the time of their marriage.

Interestingly, in PapersPast, I have also found an inbound shipping passenger list, for 1874, showing that Mrs Neagle and family (5) arrived from Wairoa.  i didn't find a matching outbound passenger list.  At the same time (1870s), Thomas was on the electoral role because he owned two sections in Clive.  I've also found reference to the Neagle children in the school prize giving articles in the local newspapers of the time.

Wairoa had a sawmill and a whaling station in the 1800s.  Family "legend" has it that Annie's father was a sailor in the whaling industry, but there are also references to a Jackson involved with the sawmill.

Annie's death record describes her father as "Jackson (sailor)" and through other information we always believed he died in 1860, so why was she returning, with her children, from Wairoa in 1874?

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Elizabeth Ann Jackson
« on: Tuesday 28 February 17 06:14 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, I wasn't aware of this document and have now submitted an online request to Archives NZ.

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Cork / Re: Cpl Thomas Thornhill Neagle
« on: Monday 27 February 17 02:50 GMT (UK)  »
I now have a map of Clive and know where he lived after his discharge from the army.  My father says he was granted land due to his service in the army, but I haven't been able to find information to confirm this.

I've also found information in the publication  "Discharged in New Zealand".  This gives his 99th regiment number as 2612 and his 65th regiment number as 3751.  His place of enlistment and trade at enlistment and enlistment date are blank!  He was discharged, in Napier, on 30 September 1859, on the completion of his service (what was the usual length of service?).  Regimental numbers 2606, 2610, 2613 and 2620 all have enlistment dates in 1852, suggesting he enlisted in 1852.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Elizabeth Ann Jackson
« on: Sunday 26 February 17 20:05 GMT (UK)  »
I tend to go with Mary Ann, but I have seen one reference which describes his wife as "Margaret (sic) Ann Jackson".

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Elizabeth Ann Jackson
« on: Sunday 26 February 17 09:41 GMT (UK)  »
Not sure, my Elizabeth Ann Neagle, née Jackson, was definitely in Napier.

Auckland baptism records suggest her parents were William and Mary (née Hunt) Jackson. When the birth of her youngest son was registered, she gave her place of birth as Auckland, but her obituary and death record say Coromandel. My father says he was always told she was born in the Coromandel.

Her death record says her father was Jackson, sailor. The baptism record says William Jackson, mariner.  The date in the baptism record aligns with her being of full age when she married my great-great-grandfather in 1862.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Elizabeth Ann Jackson
« on: Sunday 26 February 17 06:19 GMT (UK)  »
Fantastic, thanks, I've searched several times and haven't found that  :(.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Elizabeth Ann Jackson
« on: Sunday 26 February 17 04:36 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, I drove through Clive late last year, I'd like to know how the town sections from the 1870s map onto the modern township.

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Cork / Re: Cpl Thomas Thornhill Neagle
« on: Sunday 26 February 17 03:39 GMT (UK)  »
About the only missing information for Thomas after his discharge is where he lived.

His electoral roll details, in the 1870s, give his qualification, to vote, as "town sections 211 & 213, Clive".  I know where modern Clive is, but don't know how to map the historical town sections onto the modern map.

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