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Flintshire / Re: Williams Evan Griffith Jones Gwernymyndd
« on: Wednesday 06 September 23 15:29 BST (UK)  »
https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/402786:62098

Ive checked George in census half say he was born in Wales and half say England.  Was going with London because I was told he came from a wealth textile family there but it be in Wales.  Im changing my search and looking in south Wales now

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Flintshire / Re: Williams Evan Griffith Jones Gwernymyndd
« on: Wednesday 06 September 23 15:00 BST (UK)  »
Anglesey, Wales, Anglican Church Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1547-1994
Birth, Marriage, & Death

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Flintshire / Re: Williams Evan Griffith Jones Gwernymyndd
« on: Wednesday 06 September 23 04:22 BST (UK)  »
1. Couldnt find record that states maiden name of Morgan
2.  Cant be the right Ellis Williams who died in 1842 as his youngest daughter was born in 1845 so he had to be alive in 1844-45.
3 George's middle name could be Thomas.  Everything I find has George T although he did name his son George Theophilis so that could be his middle name.   I did find a record in Angelsea that shows a Elinor with parents Thomas and Sarah Griffith born in 1861 which would seem more likely as her sister was born in 1863.  However it makes even seem stranger that they would leave a 3 yr old behind when the left for the US and her obit says she was born in 1855.  As far as I know Elinor did not reunite with her family until the 1900 when George and Sarah moved to TX George Jr moved there in 1910

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Flintshire / Re: Williams Evan Griffith Jones Gwernymyndd
« on: Tuesday 05 September 23 15:55 BST (UK)  »
What I found is from the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 but I was looking for Elinor Griffith
Name   Elinor Griffith
Registration Date   1855
Quarter of the Year   Apr-May-Jun
Registration Place   Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Volume   11a
Page   575
Here obit says she was born in Cardingnshire South Wales Sept 19, 1855 and came to US in 1873

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Flintshire / Williams Evan Griffith Jones Gwernymyndd
« on: Tuesday 05 September 23 15:32 BST (UK)  »
Major Brick Walls.  I'm trying to find info on George T Griffiths (b 1840 in London d 3/30/1915 in Texas) married Sarah Evans (b 12/3/1835 in Langynhafal, Wales died in 1902 in Coalgate Oklahoma)  I think they were married in 1860.  The caveat is that their daughter Elinor was born Sept 19, 1855 in Caernarvonshire Wales.  That would make George 15 and Sarah 20 and 5 years before they were supposedly married.  I wondered if Sarah had been married before but George's grave says father of Elinor - but maybe Elinor put that and it's rather funny that it has only her name and no other siblings.  I can't find George and Sarah in any 1860 or 1861 census with baby Elinor.  I was told that George came from a wealthy textile family in London but when he returned to London lost everything to his cousins.  George and Sarah had another daughter Sarah Jane Griffith (born 1863 in Caernarvonshire Wales and died in Coalgate OK in 1947).  In 1864 - George, Sarah and baby Sarah came to America leaving 10 year old Elinor behind.  I should note that Elinor is my Great Grandmother.  I cannot find out where they left Elinor.  She may have gone by Ellen but there are two many people with the same names to figure out who is who.  Elinor married Ellis Ramsey Williams (b Feb 10, 1841 in Llandrillo, Denbighshire, Wales and died in Texas July 26, 1912). She next shows up in the 1880 Texas census with 2 children.  George isn't with her.  Ellis shows up with her in the 1900 Texas census as do her parents George and Sarah - all living in TX   Ellis' parents were John Ellis Williams (B sept 16, 1801 in Denbighshire and died sometime between 1845 and 1849 ) and Catherine Jones (b 1894 Denbighshire and died in 1894 in Gwernymyndd).  John and Catherine had a farm in Gwernymyndd Mold Wales.  It was and still is on Swan Lane.  In the 1851 Census it shows Catherine (widowed), daughters Anne, Elizabeth and Margaret and son Ellis living at 69 Swan with servant John Lloyd.  The story was that Ellis was to carry the name of the family to the farm but when his first child was a daughter he sold the farm to his sister Elizabeth and moved to America. He became the black sheep of the family.  Elizabeth then sold it to her sister Margaret Williams Hughes.  The farm then was sold to the Humphery's and then the Littler's who were living there in 1970 and had lived there for 30 years. Brick Walls John Ellis Williams parents Catherine Jones parents.  George T Griffiths parents and Sarah Evans parents.  Who did they leave 10 yr old Elinor with when they came to US - Why didn't the take her???? Ellis is approx same age as Elinor's husband George.

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Caernarvonshire / Re: George Theophilis Griffiths
« on: Wednesday 08 March 17 19:22 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, I have the 1870 census too - Where I get lost is where they were in Wales.  I know George was from England and Sarah from Wales.

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Caernarvonshire / Re: George Theophilis Griffiths
« on: Tuesday 07 March 17 19:28 GMT (UK)  »
No obit and grave only says George Griffith father of Elinor Williams - guess we know who paid for the marker as he had several other children around.  am trying to find immigration info but no luck so far

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Caernarvonshire / Re: George Theophilis Griffiths
« on: Tuesday 07 March 17 18:52 GMT (UK)  »
No obits and cannot even find Sarah Evans grave. She went to visit her daughter in OKlahoma and passed away from what I have been told in 1902 but there are no records

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Caernarvonshire / George Theophilis Griffiths
« on: Monday 27 February 17 22:46 GMT (UK)  »
Looking for any information on Griffiths family    George Theophilis Griffiths b London 1840 - d 1915  Texas married to Sarah Evans b Wales 1836 d 1902 Oklahoma. They had 5 children - the first 2 girls were born in  Llanfihangel-Y-Pennant, Caernarvonshire, Wales  Elinor Griffiths b 1855 & Sarah J Griffiths b 1863.  Margaret Griffiths b 1865, Agnes Griffiths b 1868 and George T Griffiths jr b 1871 were born in Pennsylvannia.  Do not know names of Sarah or George's parents or siblings.  Any help appreciated.  They moved to the United States after the second child so I have no other information other than that of my great grandmother Elinor Griffith.

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