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if you can get to check the registers, have a look at Levi's marriage in 1809 in case the names of the witnesses help. 

Also, I'm not finding baptisms for the children after Thomas bp 1809, so it's possible that the family were non-conformist.

 

This was the problem daughter and I found. I had a look on Ancestry and think that you are right. They became non-conformists by the look of it. There was such a huge revival thing going on at the time. In Wales where you have a Church of England (now Church in Wales) there is usually a non conformist chapel across the road! I wasn't allowed near a chapel when I was a child. Consequently I am very happy for everyone to do as they wish in their religious beliefs. The visits to the churches havn't been wasted though as I found the graves of the Howell families at New Moat and Llanycefn. Warlows were all Church in Wales people and Mary and Richard are buried at the church in Glyncorrwg. This is interesting as I believe in order to be married in the church you had to be christened in the church. I'll check for a baptism for Mary Howell nearer her marriage in 1838. Thanks all for your help and patience.

John Howell, blacksmith of New Moat, will almost certainly have been the son of  Griffith Howell and Mary Morgan, baptised at New Moat on the 20th March 1766. Griffith Howell married Mary Morgan at New Moat on the 12th November 1757.

We thought this but its so difficult when someone is illegitimate. The strange thing is that the mother's name was not on the Baptism record. I've learnt that the parish supported illegitimate children and encouraged the naming of the father to save parish costs until the Poor Law came in. But on this occasion no mention of Mum.

Thanks Cas and osprey, point taken. Have to say I thought the same as osprey, found that entry, so perhaps the Levi father of Mary Howell was not illegitimate. Find my Past also gives a record of "Levi" as a surname. It is obviously wrong when you look. Found an entry for a Levi Howel (christian names) with Gibby as a surname. I live in Pembs so think it will be a visit to the Record Office. It's a strange journey as I had no idea until recently that my maternal grand father's family were from Pembs. We moved here in 2002 and I love it.

Hullo! I'm new to this and came across this thread when searching for a relative. So I'm not sure if I should join in this thread. Help please? Anyway my great x 3 grandparents were Richard and Mary Warlow who married in Roch or Nolton Haven in 1838. Mary was born around 1811 her father is written as Levi Howell from Henry's Moat/New Moat on the wedding certificate. This is where I'm stuck. Daughter and I had difficulty finding a Levi for that sort of age group. There was one who was born in 1787 illegitimate (wording was actually bastard). The father was named as John Howell, blacksmith of New Moat. We have no idea of Levi's mother though as she was not mentioned. There were quite a number of Levis around then. Anyone got any ideas?