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Flintshire / Re: BAGILLT Baptism Records - No Father Listed?
« on: Thursday 06 December 18 15:47 GMT (UK)  »
Today I've received the siblings birth certificates and they both have no father listed so the chances are that my ancestors birth certificate would say the same. Very interesting

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Flintshire / BAGILLT Baptism Records - No Father Listed?
« on: Thursday 06 December 18 14:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, I've been looking through the Wales, Flintshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912 for Bagillt and my ancestors baptism record and a couple of his siblings have no father listed, just the mother.

The mother was widowed some years before the birth of my ancestor and his siblings and didn't remarry so it would allude to the parents being unmarried.

The thing I find strange is that 1) the vicar hasn't written any comments about there being no father written in the records, I've seen other vicars write "natural child of...", "base child of..." etc. and other comments like this. 2) the children born after the death of the mother's husband are still given the deceased husbands surname, when everyone in the village would have known the husband was already deceased.

The vicar was James Evans Jones (J E Jones).

Additionally, my ancestor has no birth record or birth certificate, either that or its been destroyed. He wrote the deceased husbands name as his father on his marriage certificate, but he died 5 years before he was born so that can't be true. I have ordered his siblings birth certificates which I am still waiting for (although I'm half expecting these to have the deceased husbands name on as well)

Can anyone offer any incite into the circumstances around these baptism records?

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sparrett, I had a look at the electoral rolls after your post and saw what you mentioned. The records seem to stop after 1919/20, I wonder if she moved away or re-married.

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CassT, I found that gravestone plaque picture a few days as well. I looked at a few others in that cemetery from the same time period and some were exactly the same. I wonder if a large number of old gravestones were replaced recently. I found it curious that there's no other family members mentioned on the plaque. ???

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Australia / Re: Cranbourne, Victoria Family Mystery -1915 John Taylor Car Accident
« on: Thursday 22 March 18 21:12 GMT (UK)  »
oh wow, that's so amazing that you've found those documents, thank you so much. I'll have a read through that report. Now that I know the names I'll try to see if the wife and children stayed in Australia or not

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Australia / Cranbourne, Victoria Family Mystery -1915 John Taylor Car Accident
« on: Thursday 22 March 18 17:00 GMT (UK)  »
In the UK there has been an inscription "John Taylor died Cranbourne, Victoria" on one of my family grave stones for many many years but no one I asked knew much about him.

After a lot of research I know he went to Australia sometime between 1901 and 1915, as he was living in the UK (Cheshire) in the 1901 UK census. He died on the 1st of January 1915 but the death is registered on the 2nd. I found a newspaper article about his passing (I can post the whole transcription if anyone wants it) which stated he was a farm labourer and collided with a car on Cranbourne Main Street and died "leaving a widow and two young children".

Can anyone assist or offer advice on how I can find out about the widow and the two children?

There are lots of marriage records due to the very common name, I don't know if he married in Australia or the UK, but I'm assuming he married in Australia as I can't find a UK record. Also, no family members are named on the death certificate apart from his parents.

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Renfrewshire / Re: Thompson/Pollock's of Paisley
« on: Friday 18 August 17 16:25 BST (UK)  »
That's really interesting. and yes the records do get sketchy.

I've just been searching through baptism records and i have two potential leads on the Thompson's.
One is a church of Scotland record registered in lochwinnoch? do you think this would be too far away from Paisley to say "I was born in Paisley" on a census?

The other is Paisley Reformed Presbyterian, registered in Paisley. Both records have the correct father, James Thompson/Thomson.

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Renfrewshire / Re: Thompson/Pollock's of Paisley
« on: Friday 18 August 17 10:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,
anne_p I hadn't thought of looking for the siblings on the marriage certificate, maybe now I can find a baptism record if I look for a John, Robert and Margaret Pollock with the same parents.

and Rena I'm not sure if they are related to those families, would yarn merchants and woollen manufacturers be affluent? I can't tell by woollen manufacturer if it means he just operates the machine or if he owns a manufacturing company.

Maybe I should try finding some probate records for the siblings and others, if they had a lot of assets it could indicate more?

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Thanks a lot for the restorations and the info ;D based on the dates given and the people I thought could be in Photo 1 and 2 they all should be in their early to mid twenties, which seems likely.

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