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Kilkenny / Re: Buckley Butler of Kilkenny
« on: Monday 03 February 20 16:03 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, I had assumed that Buckley was a surname used as a forename honoring either his mother or possibly a grandmother, though it could be just a sign of respect to a neighboring prominent family. Ultimately it will come down to whether any 18/19 century genealogically oriented author either captured records then that were later destroyed or decided to write about these branches of the Butler family. Unfortunately, the name Thomas Butler is hardly unique as each branch and each generation seems to have a Thomas Butler. At some point will check the NLI for documents and manuscripts hoping for pedigree charts. No one said it was going to be easy. Again, I appreciate your time and assistance.

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Kilkenny / Re: Buckley Butler of Kilkenny
« on: Monday 03 February 20 13:11 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks. I’m familiar with the middle two excerpts from the Butler Testamentory document (Wallace Clare). Will have to consider how the other two fit.

Buckley shows up in the Betham Genealogical Abstracts for Edward Butler in 30 June 1736 which lists his wife Elizabeth, brother Buckley Butler and a second brother Thomas.

All assuming that Buckley Butler is a unique member of the Butler family.

Appreciate the assist.

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Kilkenny / Re: Buckley Butler of Kilkenny
« on: Sunday 02 February 20 13:22 GMT (UK)  »
Yes thanks, I’ve utilized the following which were useful for Buckley and his lateral family and his descendants.
https://archive.org/stream/testamentaryreco00clar/testamentaryreco00clar_djvu.txt
https://books.google.com/books?id=usQuAAAAIAAJ&lr=&num=10

My main interest is in trying to see how Buckley (and his father and mother Thomas and Sarah) fits into the Butler family. These Butlers did not hold titles and so don’t show up in references like “The Chief Butlers of Ireland and the House of Ormond”. Given the timeframe and lack of records, perhaps this is not possible.

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Kilkenny / Re: Buckley Butler of Kilkenny
« on: Sunday 02 February 20 04:27 GMT (UK)  »
Elizabeth Molyneux first married Bryan Kelly, then after his death in 1716 she marries Lemuel Shuldham. After his death in 1721, she marries Buckley Butler.

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Kilkenny / Re: Buckley Butler of Kilkenny
« on: Sunday 02 February 20 03:11 GMT (UK)  »
Re Mary Waring, Prerogative Marriage Licence Bonds for Ossory list her with Buckley in 1721. I’ve assumed she’s from Co Kilkenny. Buckley has a brother Thomas who’s a surgeon in Kilkenny and he owned a meat market in Kilkenny City. His will has his brother Thomas, his brother-in-law Pooley Molyneux and William Waring as executors. William Waring is possibly Mary Waring’s brother

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Kilkenny / Buckley Butler of Kilkenny
« on: Sunday 02 February 20 00:02 GMT (UK)  »
Buckley Butler - Baptized 27 Jan 1695 in Saint Michans in Dublin, son of maybe Thomas and Sarah? First marriage to Mary Waring. Second marriage to Elizabeth (Molyneux) Kelly-Shuldham. Possible owner of Meat Market in Kilkenny. Death in 1737? Father of a John Butler, Sarah (Butler) Goddard and Elizabeth (Butler) Robinson-Mathews. Looking for any other info on this man, his familial connection to the Butler families of Ireland, any other info on his children.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Lost Street Names of Derry
« on: Tuesday 05 November 19 19:58 GMT (UK)  »
Makes sense. Thank you again

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Lost Street Names of Derry
« on: Tuesday 05 November 19 15:58 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so much for your very helpful and prompt responses. This positions Horse Barrack Row right near the old Great Northern RR terminal which given the importance’s of horse drawn transportation in the nineteenth century makes sense. It was probably a small road which means it’s name is unlikely to show up or be legible on the old maps. It’s listed as the birthplace of my 2x great grandmother. Thanks again.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Lost Street Names of Derry
« on: Monday 04 November 19 20:36 GMT (UK)  »
Has anyone from or familiar with Derry/Londonderry seen an antique street map or have knowledge of the location of an old street called Horse Barrack Row. It was very likely located in the Boggside area. I appreciate the assistance.

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