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Tipperary / Re: What happened to Bridget Gammell of Nicker?
« on: Wednesday 06 September 23 13:19 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

On the Irish Genealogy site, Nicker is in Tipperary. I get confused by all the areas, so it may well be under Limerick, as it in on Ancestry.
   
Here is the link to the census entry for Bridget.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Grean/Nicker_Town/1515225/

Thank you for helping :D

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Tipperary / Re: What happened to Bridget Gammell of Nicker?
« on: Wednesday 06 September 23 13:10 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
They refer to her and her mother/sister as Gamble.

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Tipperary / What happened to Bridget Gammell of Nicker?
« on: Wednesday 06 September 23 13:03 BST (UK)  »
Hello, I wonder if anyone can help? I've hit a brick wall!
My great-grandfather (James Gammell who married Mary Ryan in Nicker) had a sister called Bridget Gammell. I have her birth on 20 Jan 1886, to Edmond Gammell and Johanna Treacy. I have her in the 1901 census, living in Nicker with her parents and siblings. I have her on 21 Jun 1919 as a witness at her sister, Johanna's marriage to Thomas Hayes in Nicker. Finally, I have her on 15 Apr 1921 as present at her mother's death, again, in Nicker.
I can't find her in the 1911 census anywhere in Ireland. I can't find a marriage or a death for her. I have read that she may have married a Corbett, but there's no evidence of this.
Does anyone have any ideas where I can look next? I've been searching for 6 six years for her, with no luck. Thank you  :)

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Travelling People / Re: Maguire/Gallagher/Fitzpatrick hawkers in Yorkshire
« on: Sunday 17 October 21 13:07 BST (UK)  »
Hello! I’ve just seen the email notification. I thought the trail had run dry, so I’m excited to hear from you gypsydancer78. If you have any info you’d be willing to share, I’d love to find out more. I’m willing to share any info you might want. 😃

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England / Re: Missing mother...Fitzpatrick?
« on: Wednesday 21 March 18 12:26 GMT (UK)  »
It’s frustrating! I appreciate your taking the time to look. Thank you :)

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Travelling People / Re: Maguire/Gallagher/Fitzpatrick hawkers in Yorkshire
« on: Wednesday 21 March 18 12:23 GMT (UK)  »
I posted the first query on the England board earlier this week. I discovered the travellers board and thought it would be wise to try there, because the issue of Joseph missing from the census for ‘91 and ‘01 could be linked to his being a hawker. The marriage and birth of his children seemed to fit better on the other board. I hope I’m not confusing anyone...apologies if I am.

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England / Re: Missing mother...Fitzpatrick?
« on: Wednesday 21 March 18 12:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hello!

I have Annie (daughter of Joseph Fitzpatrick) on the 1901 census as Annie Maguire, 'daughter' of Winifred Maguire, aged 8 born 1893 in Sowerby Bridge, Yorkshire, England (archive number RG13, Piece number 4242, Folio 72, Page 29) living with Winifred, Philip and Hugh (Winifred's birth sons) and George her brother (but I can't be sure of that) in a caravan in Kirkstall, Road Burley, Leeds. I did wonder whether the Hugh was actually Hugh Fitzpatrick, but there is a birth for a Hugh Maguire in Dewsbury in 1891 and I think he dies in Pontefract in 1908. Hugh Fitzpatrick (my great granddad) died in Huddersfield in 1925.

I can't find Annie in the 1911 census, but I believe that she was in Huddersfield.

She marries John Hizzard in Huddersfield in 1916 as "Annie Fitzpatrick". Winifred Maguire lived with Annie and John in Huddersfield until her death in 1929.

She dies in Huddersfield on the 17.02.1979 as "Annie Hizzard".

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Travelling People / Maguire/Gallagher/Fitzpatrick hawkers in Yorkshire
« on: Wednesday 21 March 18 11:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hello!

I'm trying to locate a relative, who I believe was a hawker. His name was Joseph Fitzpatrick (b:1860 Leeds to Mary McEvoy and Thomas Fitzpatrick). He was a coal miner in the 1871 census and a dyer in the 1881. I can't find him in the 1891 or 1901 census. In 1911, he's in Huddersfield in a lodging house as a hawker. He dies in Huddersfield in 1924.

Apart from trying to trace him during this period, I'm also trying to trace his wife and children and to identify the link between him and the Maguire family, who were hawkers. I believe he married an Annie and they had 3 children (Thomas, b:1889?, Hugh b:1892? Annie b:1895), but I cannot find a positive birth for the three children. I am following up a possible marriage, but according to my research, if the 1887 marriage is correct, the wife dies before the younger two children could be born. Annie, the youngest child, was brought up by Winifred Maguire, who was an oil cloth hawker in the West Yorkshire area. Winifred had a son, Philip Maguire and I believe he was very successful in the fairgrounds and lived in a caravan. From letters written by Hugh's son, his father and Thomas worked with their dad Joseph on the fairgrounds and Hugh would 'take all comers' as a boxer!

I'm wondering if there's a chance that one of the Maguires was the mother to Hugh and Annie (and therefore, they'd have a different surname at birth). I don't know where the children were born. I know Joseph Fitzpatrick is around the Yorkshire area, because he makes a number of court appearances for hawking without a licience and being drunk!

I hope this isn't too garbled. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks  :D

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England / Re: Missing mother...Fitzpatrick?
« on: Tuesday 20 March 18 09:50 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for all your replies. It was a lovely surprise when I logged on this morning!
I had wondered about the Annie Fletcher, but it was not being able to link all three births that put me off. However, I agree that perhaps there was a different mother. I had assumed that Annie (child, b:1895?) was the last child born and was called Annie because her mother (also Annie) died giving birth to her.

I'll follow up the leads you've kindly provided. Thanks again  :D

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