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Family History Beginners Board / Re: How do I find which is the right John?
« on: Monday 11 September 17 16:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone

An update on finding the right John.
Today in the post I received the two death certificates, one for John Brown aged 44 died 2/12/1850, occupation Accountant, certified by his wife Mary, so clearly not my Mariner John.

The other for John Henry aged ten and a half, son of a mariner, certified by John Brown, Father, Mariner. So this one is "mine".

I have not heard from Bristol Record Office as yet, they said it would be up to two weeks before they replied, then I could order the copies of the marriages I wanted. Does anyone do Look-ups in Bristol record office please? At that rate I could well be dead before we get anywhere!!

Margaret

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: How do I find which is the right John?
« on: Friday 08 September 17 20:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi Steve
Sorry for the delay in replying. We have had a leak under the sink which has wrecked the sink unit.....you would not believe the problem I have had in getting a 1200mm sink unit carcase.....the DIY places only seem to do up to 1000mm. Then we had to source matching doors as the water wrecked them too.....and the kitchen went in 9 years ago! Finally managed to tie it all together yesterday.

Yes I was born in Port Isaac, on Church Hill. I remember the Golden Lion, but Muriel is after my time I think. I still have relatives there, and parents, grand-parents, uncles, aunts and cousins buried in St Endellion Church yard.

I have quite a lot of trees that I have researched over the years, and have them all in separate trees/databases as it were. I have been wondering about amalgamating it all together in one huge tree, keeping the originals as backups of course, which would enable me to see at a glance which people I need to look further into. Do you think this would prove to be too unwieldy? It would certainly amount to a lot of people. Is there an easy way to do this in Roots Magic?

What would anyone suggest I do about a certain Jane Rider, who was born in 1818, married a Paul Scudamore in Bath, St James on 23 November 1834, lived in Bath, Lyncombe and Widcombe all her life, and didn't know where she was born? I have all the census entries from 1851 to 1891, she either has put not known , Tiverton, or Sheffield, Yorkshire. Neither she nor Paul Scudamore are in the 1901 census. I have checked but not able to find a baptism for her in either place. I seem to have been singularly blessed with ancestors who know nothing!!
I can quite see why I abandoned some of these lines ten years ago!
Margaret

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: How do I find which is the right John?
« on: Monday 04 September 17 19:43 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
just reporting back.
I have sent off for copies of the marriages, and for the 2 death certificates. isn't it marvellous what you can do online?

I have looked for a baptism in 1897 plus or minus a year, for an Ann James and Ann Lippiatt.

For the former there is
Ann of William and Ann 24 June 1805 at Temple
Ann of William and Hester 18 August 1807 at St Nicholas
Ann of Jonah and Sarah 22 March 1805 Bristol no parish
Ann of John and Sarah 10 May 1803 at St Nicholas
Ann of William and Hester 10 August 1807 at St Nicholas.

Thus it looks as if  the one at St Nicholas may be "mine", though they seem to have had trouble reading the date. Though the one at Temple could be in the running.

For Lippiatt I could find nothing near the year in Bristol.

Steve

I downloaded the Apprenticeship register books from 1724 to 2009 but there was no entry for a John Brown being apprenticed to a Richard Shaw, more is the pity. There was one  dated 7 November 1780 of John, son of John Brown sail cloth weaver of Bristol, who was bound to Henry Webb, Mariner, and wife Martha.

My father was a Bristolian, but I am Cornish born and bred! Actually born in the village in which Doc Martin is filmed. I am not familiar with Bristol at all.

Now have to wait patiently for the copies of the marriages and the death certificates to arrive.
Margaret

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: How do I find which is the right John?
« on: Saturday 02 September 17 20:15 BST (UK)  »
I cannot thank you all enough, especially you Steve (also in Devon!) for your help. that is a flying start to my resumption of this absorbing hobby. I started when my youngest child was born and she is 49 now, so things have gone on a bit since those days.

I think it would be well for me to buy some of the BAFHS CD's in order to try and get back further. I will purchase the two death certificates, that for John and that for John Henry. I will also obtain copies of the marriages entries from the parish registers, in case witnesses help throw some light on the families. Is there anything else which you think it might be a good idea to get? As I have said previously I am a tad rusty.

Where in Devon are you Steve? We were at Shaldon, opposite side of the river to Teignmouth. We moved up to Northampton nine years ago when my husband began to show signs of dementia. All the children live in the Midlands, and as things turned out it was a good thing we moved when we did as Trevor died nearly six years ago after two and a half years coping with Lewy Body Dementia. According to him the Mafia moved in with us and we had a resident bat colony in the bathroom. A very hard and trying period of my life. So Strictly speaking I should be MargaretinNorthants now!!

Thank you all once again. Now to look for John and Ann!
Margaret.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: How do I find which is the right John?
« on: Friday 01 September 17 22:10 BST (UK)  »
Thank you all for your help and suggestions.
I was having a look today and, working on these assumptions:-

that John being 35 in the 1841 census was born between1800 and 1811

that Charles son of John & Ann who was 26 in the 1851 census was born between 1820 and 1825,

and that Mary Ann who was 17 in the  1851 census was born between 1830 and 1834

and that Ann the wife of John who was 44 in the 1851 census was born between 1805 and 1811

and that the marriage of John to Ann took place between 1820 and 1825, ( he would have been under 20 before 1820, and Charles was born no later than 1825)

I have found the following on findmypast.co .uk

Mary Ann Brown baptised 18 May 1834 dau. of John & Ann in Bristol Gloucestershire, no parish shown.

Then I checked on the 1881 census for Mary Ann Clements, as she became, and there she says she was born in St Michaels Parish, Bristol. I have trawled through several times but cannot find a baptism for Charles.

Does anyone know if the records for St Michaels have been transcribed and added to Ancestry? Or anywhere else on line?

Marriages

John Brown to Ann James 13 December 1824 @ St Nicholas, Bristol

John Brown to Ann Lippiatt  19 October 1823 no Parish Given, just Bristol.
Which somewhat ties in with the no named Parish re the baptism of Mary Ann.

I tried checking the batch number of the 1823 marriage, but it gives no more information.

I am totally at a stand with this line, which is probably why I abandoned it years ago!


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Family History Beginners Board / Re: How do I find which is the right John?
« on: Friday 01 September 17 14:30 BST (UK)  »
I should amend my reply to say that in the 1841 census there was no sign of a John Henry Brown, but he may of course not have survived to 1841,

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: How do I find which is the right John?
« on: Friday 01 September 17 14:27 BST (UK)  »
LizzieL

My John and Ann only had the two children, Charles and Mary Ann.

Thanks for your help.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: How do I find which is the right John?
« on: Friday 01 September 17 14:25 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the replies.

Girl Guide. The reference for the 1841 census is
HO 107/375/7
Parish is Temple
Sub Registration District is St Mary Redcliffe
Piece 375
Book 7
Folio 13
Page 20
Hope you can find it now.

Suzard
Yes that is the 1851 census I was referring to. According to the census Charles was born in 1825, so it is quite possible the baptism you found in St Philip and Jacob is his. Proof is another matter.

Ayasha
That is a very good idea. Thank you very much.

After a lapse of ten years I am a little rusty.

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Gloucestershire / Re: How do I find the right John
« on: Friday 01 September 17 13:58 BST (UK)  »
Thank you, Suz.

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