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Antrim / Re: Allen Bell, b.1840/41 Crumlin, Co Antrim
« on: Sunday 11 February 18 05:58 GMT (UK)  »
There was a Susannah Clements who married John Bell at Glenavy Parish Church on 25 July 1810.  She was the daughter of William Clements of "Clements Mount" Ballydonaghy.  Susannah's sister, Alicia Clements, married William Oakman of Pigeontown.  John Bell is executor and/or witness on a number of old Memorial Deeds relating to the Oakman family.

There is an Agnes Bell, daughter of John Bell of Carnaughliss and Jane Eliza (surname unknown).  Agnes married Samuel Johnston sometime before 1850 and the couple had a farm in Ballyminimore ("Hopevale") which had previously been in the Oakman family.  I've wondered whether Agnes' father was any relation to John Bell and Susannah.

On a map of Aghnadarragh dated around 1833 there are adjoining properties with the following names: Allen Bell, William Bell, Dolway Bell, John Bell, William Robert Bell, and Edward Bell.  These properties all border Ballyvollen where the McNeice's and Oakman's had farms.

The Limerick Chronical dated 4 May 1844 :
At Lough Neagh, on Friday, Alexander Charters, son of Mr John Charters, of Belfast, Mr Henry Nelson, son of Mr James Nelson, Ballinderry, and Mr Allen Bell, Glenavy-water-foot, were consigned to an early grave. They had gone on the lake on a pleasure excursion; and when rounding Ram's-island, the yacht capsized, in a sudden squall, and sunk,when the three young men perished.

I'm researching the Oakman families of Glenavy and seeking to learn whether there was a family connection between William Oakman of Pigeontown and the McNeices and Sloanes who were also there.

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Antrim / Re: William English and Jane Oakman
« on: Wednesday 31 January 18 08:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Lillybell,

Jane Oakman was the daughter of William Oakman & Alicia Clements of Pigeontown, Glenavy.  She first married James Smyth/Smith in 1818.  James Smyth died in Sept 1829. According to the death notice in the Belfast Newsletter, James left a "very numerous family". 

Jane later married William English - sometime before Sept 1835....

Registry of Deeds Vol.16 pg.372 #162 dated 11 Sept 1835 - William English and his wife Jane English, the widow of James Smyth of Lisburn, are granted the right to reside at a farm in Ballyminimore, Glenavy as long as they pay any debts or rents due, as well as "faithfully maintain, support and educate" the children of the said James Smyth deceased.  If after one year they had not done so, the children would be removed from the care of their mother, Jane English orse Smyth and the land/property would be sold by the executors of the Will of James Smyth (John Bell, John Oakman and James Shubridge) and the proceeds used to raise and support the children.

William and Jane depart for Canada a few years later with their two young children, George & Isabella English.  What happened to Jane's "numerous" children from her marriage to James Smyth?  Did Jane leave them behind in Ireland?  Had they died?

Another mystery to solve.....

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