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... and just one more addendum: the one Alfred John Pavitt I have been able to find anywhere online was in fact born at Chipping Ongar, Essex, in 1846; he was a son of William and Susan.  You can find a record of his birth at familysearch (dot) org/ark:/61903/1:1:265X-KBS; he also appears in the 1851 and 1861 censuses -- see familysearch (dot) org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGVD-5PR and (as "Alfred J. Pairtt") familysearch (dot) org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWM4-D6V; and then once more in the census of 1901, this time living in Herts: see familysearch (dot) org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS4C-TSP.

I hope you may have received the Facebook message sent by my wife Elizabeth (I do not have a FB account), which includes my email address, which I am not comfortable listing here.  If so please feel free to contact me by email.

 

Hello, Don -- returning to this discussion after a very long absence, I'm intrigued to see your two posts from 2020.  In brief, I can tell you that (as I suggested was likely in my earlier posts) the family of John Pavitt of Bradford Abbas is almost certainly quite distinct from the Pavords of Nether Compton.  While John Pavitt, who married my 3rd great grandmother Ann Chiles/Childs as his second wife, did become the _step_father to my 2nd great grandfather -- William Henry Childs, born in 1812 -- Y-DNA indicates that William Henry's biological father was most likely one of the Nether Compton Pavords.

Specifically, the most likely candidates are two teenaged Pavord boys, Samuel or Thomas, born in 1792 and 1794 respectively: they lived perhaps two miles, at most, from Ann Childs's native hamlet of Clifton Maybank (which nestles up against Bradford Abbas).  Ann was born in late 1791 or very early 1792 (she was baptized on 15 January 1792), and was thus closest to Samuel in age.  Samuel would have been of marrying age by 1812, though at 20 he'd still have been unusually young; Thomas would have been barely 18... which might perhaps explain why Ann did not acquire a husband by the time of William Henry's birth. 

Both Samuel and Thomas married other young women by about 1815, and it is of interest to note that Thomas's wife, Jane Woods [to whom I am related; my paternal great grandmother was born Charlotte Woods] was evidently pregnant with their first child, daughter Jane -- born in August of 1815 -- at the time of their early-March nuptials.  So it is conceivable, no pun intended, that there was a pattern of behavior here on Thomas's part....

I log my research on WikiTree, where I volunteer with a couple of pre-1700 projects; you can find my profile there at wikitree (dot) com/wiki/Childs-1516.  I will try to check back here for any replies or additions to this discussion, but please also feel free to send me a private message from my WikiTree page (this may require that you register on the site, which is free).  My tree is public -- click on the "Family Tree & Genealogy Tools" tab, and follow the Childs line back (click on the tiny red/blue arrowheads in the righthand column to get beyond the first five generations), and you will find John Pavitt listed as William Henry Childs's [non-biological] father... simply because he is the only father William Henry ever knew, and because there is some evidence that the two became close.

I am occasionally in touch with a gent in England [I'm in the States] who would be a half-cousin of yours, as he is a descendant of John Pavitt and John's first wife, Martha Adams.  If you would like, I can try to put you in touch with him; his name is James Bevan, and he's quite experienced at genealogy... and knows the Pavitt lineage very well.

Very best wishes for your research; please let me know if I can be helpful.

 

Whoops, one correction: John & Martha were m. at Barwick in 1763, not 1762.

Bev -- Fred isn't sure whether ancestry offers instructions on uploading to GEDMatch.com, but he says the GEDMatch site gives good instructions for uploading results from any DNA test.  So hopefully that wouldn't be too hard.

But if you want to send me results I will do my best to interpret them, and can forward them to Fred for his more-experienced interpretation.

I'll also send him the URL for this thread in case he wants to chime in here.

If the tests are of autosomal DNA, that would most certainly be of interest... and would require me to finally do my homework so I understand the tests & results better!  [I'm assuming that your individual test was probably _not_ done by Family Tree DNA, since I just zipped through about the top 1/3 of the 2,000-plus (!) matches on my FT DNA FamilyFinder list and didn't see your name.  If you did use FT, let me know and I'll comb through the rest of the list.] 

Another way to go, if you're willing to do it, would be to log the results on gedmatch.com -- which compares results across the several different outfits that do autosomal DNA tests -- and let their software do the work.

FYI I think gedmatch may also handle direct-maternal-line mitochondrial DNA tests, but in my case, it's the direct paternal, male-to-male Y-DNA that's most relevant.  (Those results can be compared across outfits using ysearch.org.)

Best email to use for me [I'll type it with "(dot)" and "(at)" as this is supposedly safer?] is probably christopher_childs (at) earthlink (dot) net.  Some people have reported difficulties with earthlink blocking emails even though my spam protection is minimal; if you get a bounce, try my gmail address, which should forward to one of my home emailboxes and circumvent Earthlink's sometimes-unneeded protection: spiritsterrain (at) gmail (dot) com .

Thanks!