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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for Missing Parents After Possible Name Change
« on: Sunday 15 April 18 16:47 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: wivenhoe on Sunday 15 April 18 05:51 BST (UK)
Can you identify the son / daughter  of Mark HOPKIN  from whom you are descended.

Can you give birth, death and marriage details for this person.........locations, names, dates, relevant to BDM events for this ancestor........child of Mark HOPKIN.

Where are you seeing a possible name change?

Absolutely. I am descended from his daughter Lavinia Hopkin and then down the Bingley line.

Birth record has only that she was born in Sheffield. Ancestry shows in her "Story" that she was born March, 1856  in Sheffield. Where else can birth date information this detailed be found? In other words, where is Ancestry getting this birth date?

Marriage to John James Bingley 09 April 1876, St. Mary's in Sheffield. I haven't found sources for this much detail so I am wondering if my grandma has physical records and added the data manually. I have on a marriage index that she was married in 1876 in Sheffield.

Regarding the name change, I don't see any evidence of it, it was only speculation from my grandmother based on her knowledge of a falling out between Mark and his parents after he was arrested.

Thank you for your interest and time.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for Missing Parents After Possible Name Change
« on: Sunday 15 April 18 16:21 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Jamjar on Sunday 15 April 18 06:43 BST (UK)
Mary’s death?

Mary Ana Hopkin
England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007
Name: Mary Ana Hopkin
Event Type: Death
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1887
Registration District: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Age (available after 1866): 68
Birth Year (Estimated): 1819
Volume: 9C
Page: 279
Line Number: 90

Jamjar

This definitely looks accurate, but I confess, I haven't confirmed as many sources for her yet. I had looked for a marriage record for her with hopes that his parents might be on it as witnesses or something, but maybe it was too early for that. I'll work on her to see if I learn anything helpful.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for Missing Parents After Possible Name Change
« on: Sunday 15 April 18 16:18 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Jamjar on Sunday 15 April 18 08:29 BST (UK)
Have you checked the early census’ for other Hopkin/Hopkins ‘table blade makers’?

Jamjar

This is a good idea. I did pour over many census records yesterday in search of people who could have variations of the name Hopkin (Hopkins, Hopkinson, etc) who might have had a son named Mark, or a father with the first/middle name Mark etc. But I didn't think to look at blade makers.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for Missing Parents After Possible Name Change
« on: Sunday 15 April 18 16:16 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: crisane on Sunday 15 April 18 05:49 BST (UK)
So from the birth reg of Selina daughter age 8 in the 1851 census Mary - wife of Mark Hopkin - has the maiden name Longley.
No marriage on FreeBMD but marriage reg only started in Sept 1/4 1837 so if before that it will ba a parish record we are looking for. I couldn't see anything on familysearch.org but there is a marriage on FreeReg for a Mary Longley in Silkstone in the West Riding of Yorkshire 1831 but it is to an Edward Lawton and 1831 seems a bit early if the child Mary age 3 on the 1841 census is the eldest child of the marriage.

I have in my tree that he married Mary Ann Longley on February 7 of 1837 in the St. Peter & St. Paul Cathedral.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for Missing Parents After Possible Name Change
« on: Sunday 15 April 18 05:20 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for your speedy replies.

Here is what I know about Mark.
He was born in 1818 in Sheffield. He married Mary Longley, worked as a blade maker, had several children (8 or 9). He died in 1881 at the age of 63 in Sheffield.

I have kept my eyes peeled for what could be surname deviations, misspelled versions or in one case I have already come across, a mistakenly indexed variation which was input as "Hopkey" (It said "Hopkin" on the record).

Those records Crisane referenced WERE a good find! But Mark would have been too old to match them sadly.

I have no record of any siblings as of yet.

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Family History Beginners Board / Looking for Missing Parents After Possible Name Change
« on: Sunday 15 April 18 01:59 BST (UK)  »
Hello, family historians!
I am very new to genealogy, but anxious to get to work. My grandmother has worked extensively on this, but has reached a dead end and I'd love to help her out. What a wonder it would be to help her find these missing family.

My ancestor is named Mark Hopkin and resided in Sheffield, England in the 1800's.
There seems to be no trace of his parents. My grandma explained that he had been arrested when he was 18 and that she believed (or had record of some sort - that part is fuzzy) that his parents had disowned him at this point. She speculated that he could have changed his name after the family drama and that could by why we are having difficulty tracking his parents and siblings (if any) down.

I am wondering how an experienced genealogist would proceed with this information. I know it is a lot of speculation. I have access to Ancestry, but that hasn't lead us anywhere.

Thank you so much.

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