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The Common Room / Re: What is a conditional baptism??
« on: Tuesday 12 March 24 11:59 GMT (UK)  »
My ancestor from Armagh had a conditional baptism as a child, one parent seems to have been COI and the other RC. He went on to grow up and marry his RC wife in the RC church and all kids were raised RC so for my family the conitional baptism was important because his father may have attempted to raise his son COI but his mother ensured he was raised Catholic.

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Lanarkshire / Land place names in Coatbridge / Old Monkland
« on: Sunday 18 February 24 17:49 GMT (UK)  »
I've come across a few place names in Coatbridge in my research such as Fells Land, Dundyvan and Tudhopes Land, Dundyvan Road.

Where were these places? and were they tenements named landowners?

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Lanarkshire / Re: McInrue/McAhruie Coatbridge
« on: Wednesday 07 February 24 07:33 GMT (UK)  »
Not sure if anyone is still following this but I am the great-great grandson of Mary Ann McInrue and James McGovern who married in 1884, Coatbridge.

I have a copy of Mary Ann's baptism which took place in the parish of Kilquade in County Wicklow, Ireland. Her name on this was recorded as 'Maria Anna McInroe' baptised on 29th of May 1864, parents given as 'John McInroe and Elizabeth Teevan', address given as the townland of 'Knockadreet'.

I also have a civil record which seems to line up with date and place, however the name on it is recorded as 'Margaret McIlrue' and parents are recorded as 'Patrick McIlrue' and 'Eliza Tieven', address given as 'Roundwood'. So whether the civil record is for the same family, I'm not entirely sure...

Mary Ann's baptismal record in Co. Wicklow lines up with the information Mary Ann provided on the 1921 Census of Scotland, on this her birth place is also recorded as Co Wicklow.

- Sam

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Thank you for the directories. I have no idea how to check or find these so I really appreciate it.

I do have a query relating to the birthplaces of James' children. All of James Gilronan's children were born at Newtowngore between 1872 and 1887. His only child born at Killeshandra was a daughter, Catherine born there in 1870. Therefore it seems like the family moved to Newtowngore around 1871 and back to Killeshandra between the birth of their youngest daughter Elizabeth in 1887 and the Census of Ireland in 1901.

Does anyone know if there are any directories for Newtowngore? and if so, could you check this? He worked as a Blacksmith on all of the birth records. Variations of the surname exist, I see sometimes it appears as Gilronan, Gillronan and Kilronan.

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Cavan / Killeshandra, Main Street & Castle Street (Gilronan / Duignan Family)
« on: Friday 29 December 23 13:44 GMT (UK)  »
Wondering if anyone has any old photos of Killeshandra's Main Street and/or Castle Street?

I'm particularly interested for the area around where the two streets meet. It is my understanding that my family (Gilronan) once worked in a Blacksmith forge located on Castle Street and also had a boarding house nearby on the Main Street.

My ancestor was Margaret Gilronan (1877-1961) wife of Patrick McManus. She grew up in Killeshandra with her parents James Gilronan (1852-1918, husband of Mary Anne Duignan) who worked as a Blacksmith there. She had a large family, sisters who became the proprietresses of a boarding house and brothers who followed in their father's footsteps and became Blacksmiths.

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Lanarkshire / Re: David Shanks/ Mary Scott 1862
« on: Sunday 05 November 23 17:07 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Forfarian however the Blackrigg in question is definitely in Clarkston, near Wester Moffat. It appears on Roy’s Map of the Lowlands, immediately to the west of ‘Moffat’ and ‘Brownyside’.

It doesn’t appear to be marked on any of the Ordnance Survey maps. However, the 1921 Census for Blackrigg Farm places it near Towers Road. The Valuation Rolls and Death Record of David’s youngest son Alexander Shanks in 1921 and his wife Christina (nee. Forrest) in 1923 record it as ‘Blackrigg Farm, Forrest Street’. So it looks as though there were at least two farms called Blackrigg in the parish of New Monkland. This Blackrigg Farm being in Clarkston and distinct from the other Blackrigg in New Monkland near Wattston. It also isn’t the Blackrigg in the parish of Shotts.

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Lanarkshire / Re: David Shanks/ Mary Scott 1862
« on: Sunday 05 November 23 12:05 GMT (UK)  »
For anyone interested in David Shanks and his wife Mary Scott I have found some more information on David and his parents.

It seems most likely that David Shanks was the son of William Main and Agnes Shanks.

His death record which was registered in 1892 by his son records him as 'David Main, known as David Shanks, son of William Main and Agnes Shanks'. This lines up with the name he gave his first born son of William Main Shanks in 1864.

His parents William Main & Agnes Shanks seem to have married in 1828 in New Monkland. There is also a 'Decreet of Declarator' record for William Main and Agnes Shanks from 1833, I have only come across the index for this on the Scottish Indexes website, I haven't been able to view the original record so I'm not sure what information it may contain.

David becomes the farmer at Blackrigg or Blackridge Farm (Clarkston, New Monkland) which was somewhere near Wester Moffat, sometime following the death of his unmarried aunt Jean Shanks in 1860. Prior to this he was at Drumshangie Farm with his uncle Thomas Shanks & family.
Thomas Shanks and Jean Shanks were both the children of David Shanks and Jean Thomson, so David's mother Agnes Shanks must also have been the child of David Shanks and Jean Thomson.

His aunt Jean Shanks worked as a servant at Wester Moffat and appears there in the 1841 and 1851 Censuses. Interestingly, in 1841 with Jean there is an Agnes Shanks also recorded at Wester Moffat. I presume this may have been David's mother (perhaps her husband William Main had died by this date?) but I haven't been able to trace her after 1841.

So it looks as though David was unsure of his true parentage when he married in 1862, hence why he states his parents names as 'David Shanks & Agnes Shanks' rather than William Main and Agnes Shanks. Perhaps he only found out his true parentage after marriage? This seems to be most likely as his children knew his parents as William Main and Agnes Shanks and he must've known this too by 1864 when he named his first son William Main Shanks.


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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander McPherson & Sarah Cameron, Kilbride near Oban
« on: Friday 09 September 22 08:48 BST (UK)  »
1796 Old Parish Record of Baptism for Alexander McPherson, son of Alexander McPherson and Sarah Cameron

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Argyllshire / Re: Alexander McPherson & Sarah Cameron, Kilbride near Oban
« on: Friday 09 September 22 08:41 BST (UK)  »
1792 Old Parish Record of Baptism for Ann McPherson, daughter of Alexander McPherson and Sarah Cameron

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