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Dumfriesshire / Re: Wamphray, Walter Kerr and Agnes Gibson
« on: Monday 01 February 16 11:26 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for your reply....very frustrating pair!
Walter Kerr was definitely the Miller at Wamphray mill.
I went to the Ewart Street library in Dumfries, and found an advertisement from the 1798 newspaper.
It details farms to rent on Whitsuntide next and amongst those listed..
"The mill and mill lands of Wamphray as possessed by Walter Kerr"

I think he had possibly died as he and Agnes had no further issue after this point. On the death certs of their offspring Walter is described as a miller. All the Kerr children of Walter Kerr and Agnes Gibson were born at Wamphray.

I too visited the church, though the graves do not appear to be older that 1830s ( When the church was built).

I have seen that the Gibson family have been a constant tenant of the mill prior and after my Walter years...so I was hoping to ascertain that Agnes was the daughter of a Gibson miller and that is how she and her husband Walter were there.

But I have nothing concrete to go on as yet.

Any further info you think may help would be great,
Many Thanks,
Sally

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The Common Room / Re: NAS Catalogue
« on: Tuesday 21 October 14 08:42 BST (UK)  »
If he was to have been tried at the High Court - and given that it was a case at Solemn Procedure that is highly likely - the case would have been heard at the next sitting of the High Court regardless of where in the Country that was.

At that time there were few fixed High Court Sittings and it went around the country in a Circuit and cases which came into its remit would be heard then regardless of where in the country they were committed or where the Court was sitting.

Thank you. The case was heard in April 1828, and William Kerr failed to attend and was detailed as fugitive. Frustratingly can not find any other future details on him:(

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The Common Room / NAS Catalogue
« on: Monday 20 October 14 20:57 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if anyone can assist. I am on the National Records of Scotland researching a criminal ancestor. I see the result, but at the very bottom of the information there is a link to a reference NA4265 Alloa Stirlingshire
I click the link and it leads nowhere. I do have all the papers relating to the criminal case though I want to know what the significance is of the associated places references.
Incidentally, the accused William Kerr had absconded before the trial. Any advice or info please. I have pasted the record info below.
Many thanks
Reference Title Date
AD14/28 Crown Office precognitions, 1828 1828
 
Country code GB
Repository code 234
Repository National Records of Scotland
Reference AD14/28/331
Title Precognition against William Kerr for the crime of forgery
Dates 1828
Access status Open
 
Location On site
 
Level File
 
Finding aids 19th Century Solemn Database
 
Related record JC26/1828/2
 
Accused William Kerr, baker and flour dealer, Address: Moffat, Dumfriess

Associated places
 
NA4265 Alloa, Stirlingshire, Scotland
 
 



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Dumfriesshire / Re: Jessie Hannah and Agnes Kerr of Moffat
« on: Friday 03 January 14 09:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Don, thanks for this. Janet Kerr was the widow of William the baker. I believe William was the brother of James Kerr, John Kerr and Jean Kerr. Janet is buried in the cemetery on the outskirts of Moffat. William went missing in 1828 during a trial for which he was accused of fraud, and no more was heard of him. I agree with you regarding the illegitimacy of Jessie Hannah and thank you for all your help. I will look further into your info on Jessie and the possibility of a brother. Thank you:)

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Dumfriesshire / Wamphray, Walter Kerr and Agnes Gibson
« on: Friday 03 January 14 08:58 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for any information on Walter Kerr and Agnes Gibson. They had children born in Wamphray, according to the children's census information. John Kerr was born in c1791, James Kerr in c1797, Jean Kerr c1797, also William, birthdate unknown and possibly a Janet and Mary. Walter is described as a deceased miller on John Kerr's death certificate and mother was detailed as Agnes Gibson, also deceased. I believe the Gibson family worked at the Wamphray Mill in the 1700s. I cannot find any other info on Walter and Agnes. Though the census details that their children were born at Wamphray. (John Kerr married Janet Proudfoot and lived at Kirkpatrick Juxta in the 1820s). John, James, Janet and Jean all ended up in Moffat but no Walter or Agnes, so they had probably died before the 1841 census. Any help or advice to lead me to more information would be great. I have hunted Scotland's People and am now at a brick wall.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Jessie Hannah and Agnes Kerr of Moffat
« on: Monday 02 December 13 21:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi CaroleW,

I have checked and unfortunately cannot find a Kerr marriage to a Hannah that would be applicable. I have done death searches, births etc. and just keep hitting a brick wall.

Yes on the 1851 census Jessie is with James Kerr, and Elizabeth Kerr at the Star Inn. Also at the Star Inn though listed as the next household is Janet Kerr and Agnes Kerr.

I just cannot ascertain what happened to Jessie and Agnes. I have info on Elizabeth, and James and Janet. Thanks for your help.

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Dumfriesshire / Jessie Hannah and Agnes Kerr of Moffat
« on: Monday 02 December 13 14:34 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to trace Jessie Hannah born Moffat c 1833 and Agnes Kerr born Moffat c 1837. Both appear on 1841 and 1851 census living in Moffat with James Kerr and are both described as niece. Jessie was the informant on the the death certificate of Janet Kerr d1856 and is described as her grandchild, though Janet was not married. I believe Janet was James sister. In 1851 the are living at the Star Inn ( now the Star Hotel). In 1841 Jessie is Janet Hannel, mis-transcribed, but Janet may be her true name and Jessie became her known name.
I have hunted through Scotland's People and can find no trace of either of these girls after the 1851 census for Agnes and the 1856 informant for Jessie.
Can anyone help or advise me at all?

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Sussex / Re: Harris of Ninfield and Mountfield
« on: Wednesday 20 February 13 08:17 GMT (UK)  »
I will look into both of these scenario's, thank-you. Mary lived with Samuel until his death, and then lived with her neice, Samuel's daughter. I considered her parentage may have been on her headstone, her being a spinster. Is that possible?

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Sussex / Harris of Ninfield and Mountfield
« on: Tuesday 19 February 13 12:43 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone advise on further information for Samuel Harris b Ninfield 1795. He had a sister called Mary also born Ninfield c1801. She lived with her brother from 1851 and was detailed on census as imbecile / lunatic. Samuel died in 1877 and Mary died 1891. She is buried at St John The Baptist Netherfield. Though I do not have a M I. I cannot find a birth history for Samuel, so any advice would be great. Samuel had a son Elijah, tenant farmer at Rats Farm Mountfield. Samuel was a woodreve from the 1851 census onwards. His marriage to Fanny Weeks in 1816 Herstmonceux does not detatil parents either. Can anyone help? Thanks

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