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Kerry / Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« on: Tuesday 21 August 18 21:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi
Just got back after 2 weeks away. You have certainly been busy. Looking forward to getting stuck into these new leads as well as tieing up some of the other records you've found. Thank you so much. This previously empty side of the family tree is certainly growing!

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Kerry / Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« on: Tuesday 31 July 18 09:07 BST (UK)  »
Emma sounds a really interesting character. The family must have been well off for her to have been recorded as 'lady' on her first marriage record, particularly as her father also was recorded as a 'gentleman' as was her first husband. In her will she left £220 which by today's standards would be over £6000. I will trace the family.Perhaps she moved to Louth to be closer to her family -as John Greene and Emma's sister married there. Emma also lived to a good age.

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Kerry / Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« on: Monday 30 July 18 19:12 BST (UK)  »
Have looked at this and you are right - address is correct. Would he have been referred to as ex RIC on death certificate? Think age isn't quite correct too. In 1911 census Owen is 63 but this Owen died aged 59 if I am reading it correctly.

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Kerry / Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« on: Monday 30 July 18 18:16 BST (UK)  »
Apologies again!

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Kerry / Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« on: Monday 30 July 18 17:55 BST (UK)  »
That's interesting that Owen and Eugene are interchangeable. My husband has always wondered. I do hope this turns out to be him! My apologies Sean I did mention the forum in an earlier post and it was info on the site from both yourself and others which helped confirm my ideas. No offence was intended. Thank you for the news references to Bessie. I am on hubby's laptop as mine has crashed with Owen's records on it so will download again and check. I think Peter on RIC forum equated head constable to an inspector so I can see why he might have appeared so frequently.  John Michael Quilter is definitely Bessie's brother. Will now track both Emma and Owen as well as the Kelly leads, as I am now even more certain it is him. Thank you for all your help everyone and I apologise for any inconvenience I may have caused.

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Kerry / Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« on: Monday 30 July 18 17:18 BST (UK)  »
My apologies! I have been tracking an Owen Heavey. My instinct is it was Owen as:
1.  when I looked into derivatives of the name Owen I found Eugene. Certainly the name Eugene does not appear in the Quilter line until then.
2.  He fits the bill as regards being born born in Athenry, Galway.
3. The info I also got was that Eugene RIC died in Dublin and the Owen Heavey I found did die in Dublin too
But I cannot be 100% sure it is him.

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Kerry / Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« on: Monday 30 July 18 16:55 BST (UK)  »
Quite right. He is a very elusive character. The story is Eugene ( hubby's grandfather) was given his father's name. He was baptised Quilter but on the 1901 and 19011 census appears under the name Heavey living with his relatives. So I assume Heavey was the father's surname. His mother Bessie is there in 1901 but has moved by 1911. My mother in law says her husband talked of his grandmother so she must have been around after his mother died.There is no Eugene Heavey RIC who fits the bill but I did find an Owen. Bessie's brother was in the RIC and went onto become a sergeant. Again I assume it was through her brother Bessie met the RIC Heavey. I have been in contact with the RIC forum where I spoke with someone who it turns out is a  cousin of my husband who says his mother believed the RIC Heavey came from Athenry in Galway. Bessie never married and was a nurse or midwife. She stayed in the area up to 1911 at least and must have been some character! They are an interesting family to research!

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Kerry / Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« on: Monday 30 July 18 16:18 BST (UK)  »
Thank you - those records are interesting and certainly have some cross overs. I will have a good look at these and see if they lead anywhere. Fingers crossed!

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Kerry / Re: Kelly ancestors is it mission impossible?
« on: Monday 30 July 18 16:07 BST (UK)  »
That's what I thought. Eugene was born in 1885, but again that doesn't help!

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