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Messages - E.M. Wilson

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Roxburghshire / Re: Turnbull / Bonchesterbrige
« on: Monday 22 February 21 05:12 GMT (UK)  »
@Forfarian, the Wilsons were either part of the Gunn Clan or the Innis Clan and our Wilsons were part of the Gunn Clan as Abe Gunn can tell you. He also said that there is usually an imposter trying to insert himself in every family. So common. All of the Hawick Wilsons know which Clan they belong to.  No person named Gunn went to Australia? Poppycock.

So many irregularities in this Australian fairytale of epic proportion that need to be buttressed with so many explanations without documentation.  Such an overwhelming response for my brief points that nobody else picked up on.

Multiple times I have found reference of BW as a 1st Cousin 5x removed to James Wilson, Economist but never have I seen it stated for what it MAY (on the 12th of never) be, illegitimate 1st Cousin 5x removed.  Don't worry though, everyone who BW lied to sees through this charade.

I understand from several sources from Hawick that Brett made a real pest of himself when he visited claiming that he was a Wilson and his presence was not welcome. Nobody had ever heard of him.

I guess it's time to change the headstone again.   ;)




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Roxburghshire / Re: Turnbull / Bonchesterbrige
« on: Sunday 21 February 21 04:55 GMT (UK)  »
As per Records of the Castlemaine Pioneers by Rigby Limited 1972 ISBN 085179386 x

On page 95 when he is 63 years old, Walter Wilson (Master Baker, Selkirk presumably) mentions that he built an oven on Kangaroo Flat, opposite Dr. O'Donnel's and not far from Gunn's Hotel. 

On page 169 when he is 72 years old, he writes that a horse "dropped dead in front of Gunn's Hotel". 

Here, in this book he has two opportunities (if he is a real Wilson) to mention how the Wilson Family is a Sept of the Gunn Clan but he does not mention it.  The Gunn Hotel and the Gunn Clan is of no consequence to him. 

On page 102, Walter Wilson writes "For the present, I will detain you no longer, but bid you "Good Night"  in the words of Ebenezr Elliott, the Corn Law rhymer - "He that hath done his best, let him rest." He chose a quote from an Elliott, his Father's name is Elliot.  More compelling, if he was raised by a Wilson, he would have mentioned that James Wilson, Economist published The Corn Laws in 1853 if he was a relative. How could he leave that out if he was a REAL Wilson.  They were contemporaries.  There was no relationship with Walter Wilson, Cabinet-maker of Hawick.  They didn't know eachother. He didn't know or know of James Wilson, Economist. Walter Wilson a.k.a Walter Bell a.k.a Walter Wilson Elliot a.k.a Walter Wilson of Castlemaine, Victoria, Australia was not a member of the Wilson Family of Hawick.


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Roxburghshire / Re: Turnbull / Bonchesterbrige
« on: Sunday 21 February 21 03:20 GMT (UK)  »
I bring up these points because they have not been addressed. 

How do you connect a bastard born in 1823 in Canonbie, Scotland to a Master Baker in Selkirk in 1851 when neither of them have any record of where they've been for the past 28 years. 

They each need to be identified. 

How do you identify W.B.W. a.k.a Walter Bell a.k.a Walter Wilson Elliot a.k.a Walter Wilson after birth in 1823?

How do you identify the Master Baker in Selkirk showing up out of the blue in 1851 in Selkirk?

How do you connect these two people without any documentation? What is the documentation that connects these two events?

How much more harmonious can this be.  I am simply asking questions.  Don't feel any pressure.  I don't expect answers from you.  I will find them. :-* :-* :-*

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Roxburghshire / Re: Turnbull / Bonchesterbrige
« on: Sunday 21 February 21 02:25 GMT (UK)  »
The Selkirk Master Baker by the common name of Walter Wilson ended up in Australia making more babies.  But the problem is how do you connect W.B.W., a.k.a. Walter Bell, a.k.a. Walter Wilson Elliot, a.k.a, Walter Wilson born in 1823, Canonbie Scotland to Walter Wilson Master Baker, 1851 in Selkirk.  28 years have passed.  Where did he pass them?

What was his name in Scotland BEFORE he was 28 years old?

Where did he live in Scotland, England  BEFORE he was 28 years old

These are basic questions that need to be answered.

I suspect that this illegitimate child grew up in the Guide Port Inn and the Crosskeys Inn and was tossed around like a hot potato.
 
So many discrepancies, now, the headstone has been changed. This is starting to look like a pantomime.

There is no traceability.  All of this information is being manipulated to fit a big guess that is a DEAD END.  Waste of time. What is eerie to me is the desperation the “he” has to be a real Wilson.

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Roxburghshire / Re: Turnbull / Bonchesterbrige
« on: Sunday 21 February 21 02:17 GMT (UK)  »
"Yawn"

Take a vitamin

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Roxburghshire / Re: Turnbull / Bonchesterbrige
« on: Sunday 21 February 21 02:15 GMT (UK)  »
"His" Bible refers to the Elliot Chidren, fathered by Robert Elliot born in Canonbie, Scotland in 1801. They're all from Canonbie, Scotland. See Robert Elliot's birth record attached. The whole family was born in Canonbie, Scotland just like W.B.W. a.k.a Walter Bell a.k.a Walter Wilson Elliot a.k.a. Walter Wilson.

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Roxburghshire / Re: Turnbull / Bonchesterbrige
« on: Sunday 21 February 21 02:11 GMT (UK)  »
I enjoyed this one:

“Have addressed letters to my father in Hawick and to my mother in Penrith – to Mr Lewis - Bookseller, John Brydon - Merchant, and Andrew Inglis - Mason. “

Why was “and to my mother in Penrith” left out of the previous post of this paragraph?

Where is the original undoctored page?

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Roxburghshire / Re: Turnbull / Bonchesterbrige
« on: Sunday 21 February 21 02:06 GMT (UK)  »
Henry Hume Census document part 2

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Roxburghshire / Re: Turnbull / Bonchesterbrige
« on: Sunday 21 February 21 02:02 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, keep me posted as to what counts as a fact and what does not.

Tell me this, if W.B.W. a.k.a. Walter Bell a.k.a. Walter Wilson Elliot a.k.a Walter Wilson had a relationship with his father why was he not the heir apparent? Why did he receive nothing from the will?

I digress.  I have more facts that don't apparently count. Please show me the facts that do qualify that counter my argument.

"He" stated previously that W.B.W. a.k.a. Walter Bell a.k.a. Walter Wilson Elliot a.k.a Walter Wilson lived with the Hume family in Selkirk and apprenticed with them.  See Hume Census part 1 attached.

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