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United States of America / Re: Jospeh Rice - Philadelphian Theatre Owner?
« on: Friday 27 December 19 20:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you both for the confirmation. I was skeptical but it was interesting to see that my original hunch was correct and nit to try and go down a rabbit hole of trying to fond the jospeh rice of the wikias and websites. Thanks for the feed back, I greatly appreciate it!

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United States of America / Jospeh Rice - Philadelphian Theatre Owner?
« on: Thursday 26 December 19 17:10 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Everyone! I posted a little bit earliet this year for assistance on help with finding out more about the Riano brothers and greatly appreciate the assistance, as grest strides were made! So thank you.

My current headscratcher involves some information regarding Irene Riano's father. I've linked the old thread page for reference.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=806577.72

I've kept coming across that her father is Joseph Rice, a theater owner from Philadelphia on both wikia and find a grave and a few other sites. Now i know these can be edited and such but i have not been able to find anything regarding him in my research as i have little to go off on aside from these blurbs and the fact he worked in show business and it fits with Irene's background in entertainment.

I've come across one issue that she may not be related to this man and was actually born in ohio in 1874 and died in 1940 in Los Angelas, California. Her maiden name may have been Couples but that's been up for debate. Im curious if I'm on the right track with Couples or if Joseph Rice is in fact her father and there's a mix up of indfomation?

Any assistance would be appreciated to get me on the right track. Thank you as always!

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United States of America / Re: Samuel J. Urquhart - Alabama - Bloodline?
« on: Tuesday 12 February 19 16:17 GMT (UK)  »
A few more things to throw at the wall and see if they stick:

is this Samuel in 1880? If so, he named his first son Henry.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4V4-8SW

Why do you say he died in 1882 in Georgia? Could this be him in 1900?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9DL-ZPT

If so, is this his death in 1923? The image might list skin color.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXCX-F3T

Are these two of his daughters, in 1920?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXD4-XSX

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Henry S Urquhart, 1850, Montgomery County, but it only says "Second District"

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH5Z-NNV
does the slave owner record have a better location? is it near Dublin, Alabama, where Samuel seems to be in 1880?

a bit of a family tree for Henry:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LXM8-JW1

Have you found Samuel in 1870? Lots of ex-slaves were skipped in 1870, according to what I have heard. And I haven't found him yet.

Hey, sorry for the late reply. I did take a look into the "Second District" and it looks like the Judge Henry Snowden Urquhart is the same Henry Urquhart from the slave census. I apologies about my initial post, with Alexander / Georgia as I had gotten misinformation and was following the wrong branch of the Urquhart tree and hence why I was getting confused. I'm fairy confident that Judge Henry was the Urquhart owner of Samuel in his youth

I couldn't find any additional slave record aside from the 1850 but the Dublin isn't too far away from Pike where I found Judge Henry Urquhart.

Samuel's death date I found was in 1923 and in Montgomery Alabama so that matches up correctly.  Sam's first child I had is James Henry (but Henry can be right as well.) He did have a son named Tom and Sam's daughter is Jane as well. I found a census from 1880 that has Sam living in Dublin with his family, so I'm confident that he stayed around after being freed.

Also, thank you for detailed index on slave and plantation records. Appreciate it!

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United States of America / Re: Samuel J. Urquhart - Alabama - Bloodline?
« on: Monday 11 February 19 19:19 GMT (UK)  »
Okay, I did a little more sleuthing and found a US Federal slave census record that matches up pretty closely to the information I have on Samuel. He was a slave at the age of 7 when he was on the Urquhart plantation. According to the records, it looks like this was in Montgomery County, Alabama to a slave owner named Henry S. Urquhart on October 7th, 1850. Hoping this pans out a bit and if I can find any slave owner records that can expand on.

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United States of America / Re: Samuel J. Urquhart - Alabama - Bloodline?
« on: Monday 11 February 19 18:33 GMT (UK)  »
And actually, in hindsight. I think I have two different Urquharts mixed up. Samuel lived mostly in Dublin, Montgomery, Alabama, USA during most of his life, so the Haywood Urquhart likely isn't the one I'm looking for. I'm going to try and narrow down the Alabama side and see if anything pans out.

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United States of America / Re: Samuel J. Urquhart - Alabama - Bloodline?
« on: Monday 11 February 19 18:26 GMT (UK)  »
Are there any direct line male descendants available for yDNA tests? or even autosomal  DNA might match the Urquharts closely enough, assuming someone on the slaveowner's side has submitted samples.

Thank you for the book recommendation! I'll look into it.
I do not think there are any direct males that we know of sadly.

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United States of America / Re: Samuel J. Urquhart - Alabama - Bloodline?
« on: Monday 11 February 19 16:42 GMT (UK)  »

1850 census Township 24, Tallapoosa, Alabama. Lockheart surname mis-transcribed.

Alexander Lockheart Age 51
Alitha Lockheart Age 43
Yelvington T Lockheart Age 16

message board post (30 December 2006) mention Y T Lockhart could be the brother of Samuel J Urquhart.
"Is it possible that Y.T. Urquhart and Samuel J. Urquhart are brothers and sons of Alexander and Althea" ?  ???

https://www.ancestry.com/boards/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=785&p=localities.northam.usa.states.georgia.counties.early

Sandra

I've run into those two graves and thought originally, but i'm not sure if my reaearch is flawed since theres a census record stating Samuel was born in Alamaba or if I'm getting two different people mixed up with Alexander.

The only thing in Alabama I could find with Alexander was a  Alabama, Homestead and Cash Entry issued on Nov 1st, 1858. So I probably have the Alexanders mixed up?

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United States of America / Samuel J. Urquhart - Alabama - Bloodline?
« on: Monday 11 February 19 16:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hello everyone!

I'm having a little bit of trouble tracing back my fiances' roots and want to make sure I'm on the right path. Their family has claims to be descendants of the Scottish Urquhart clan, with her mother having done a little bit of research and the oral history going back a few generations, meeting some very distant cousins and so forth.

What I've been trying to find is that "correlation" between when their family began. My research and information has been that it may be from Samuel J. Urquhart (JUL 1842: Alabama - AUG 1885 : Early County, Georgia, USA ) who was a slave. Now this is probably all but impossible but I'm trying to see if Samuel was the illegitimate child Alexander Urquhart: AUG 1799(?): Georgia -  3 OCT 1864: Bethel Baptist, Clay County, Georgia). It goes from the family being Mulatto (mixed) to the  Scottish lineage of Urquhart.

I know I'm probably way off, and that the family tree can abruptly end with the slave trade history but any assistance would be appreciated! Thank you as always!

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Armed Forces / Re: American Civil War Assistance
« on: Monday 04 February 19 20:10 GMT (UK)  »
I cross referenced on the information i have and it only showed a few similar named men, but their enlistment dates were earlier. Guess it's too vague to get any concrete information just based off of the draft. Thank you for the reference though!

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