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I did see the 1911 census for Christopher Fitzpatrick but I dismissed it because of the following discrepancies -

1901 Census                                                  1911 Census

Christopher is shown as 5o years of age           Christopher is shown as 63 years of age
Christopher's place of Birth - Co Dublin            Christopher's place of Birth - Co Meath
Christopher can read only                               Christopher can read and write

If he was homeless and living rough / on the streets, then he would not be on the 1911 census.

When I found his entry in the Workhouse, I read about Workhouses which were for the benefit of the homeless, penniless and vagrants.   If he had still been a member of the family, why was a lair not purchased for the father.   All the other members of the family are together.

I will never know, but it is very sad.

Anne

Dathai, I have just returned from holiday and am delighted to have the info you have given me.  I had already contacted the burial ground and they were able to give me info on John and Rose, but said they had no information on James of Christopher.   They also told me Rose was married when she died, when in fact, she was widowed.

It was sad to see that John died in a mental hospital and that Christopher was an inmate of 4 nth Brunswick Street.   Was that a hospital or a hostel or maybe even a workhouse?   On Rose's death certificate there is the letter R on the margin beside her name, does this have a significance?

I note James lived in Clontarf - it this near Raheny?   I suspect Mary Ryan, the informant, was his landlady.   I can remember my grandmother going over to Dublin for his funeral.

Now that I have this information it has given me the urge to get back to tracing my Irish roots.   I had given up after hitting too many brick walls.   I have a marriage for a Rose Connolly and Christopher Fitzpatrick  on 16 May 1875, which I hope is them.    Christopher's father is shown as John and mother as Margaret (no surname), Rose's father is shown as Cornelius and mother as Mary (no surname).

How would I be able to find out if Christopher or Rose had any siblings, who would be aunts and uncles to my late mother?

I can't thank you enough for your help and interest and hope that I can eventually find a contact with my Irish family.

Regards
Anne

Thanks to all who replied to my post re James Whitby and for the lovely photographs of Isle Farm.  I am now able to fit James into the family tree.    I expect the lodger was a brother or, perhaps, a cousin of Thomas.   I am going to follow that up.

Lodger, I would love to have any information you have on the Colvin family buried at Cambusnethan.   There was a big family of them, one of whom was my G Grandfather, Terence, who died in 1895.   His first wife was Mary Andrew who died in 1886 and his second wife was Jessie McKnight, who died in 1922.   I have a cutting from the local newspaper, giving a glowing obituary for her.  She was a prominent figure and a schoolteacher.   Her daughter, Margaret, also a schoolteacher, died in 1932,   If you have any information on the above, I would be pleased to receive it.

I now look forward to someone able to help me with the other missing ancestors.

Anne

Having had very helpful advice from Rootchatters when I started researching my family tree, I am now asking for help or advice re a few brick walls I have come up against.

James Whitby born 1845 in Sorbie, Wigtownshire to parents Thomas Whitby and Elizabeth McCartney.  Unable to find any further information.

Elizabeth Whitby (James's sister) born 1857, Sorbie, m James Duncan in Glasgow in 1884.  Cannot find any further information.

John McGee, born 1886 to Thomas McGee and Mary Colvin.  John and his two siblings were orphaned as young children and went to live with their maternal grandmother, Catherine Colvin, in Cambusnethan.   They are all on the 1901 census but on the 1911 census John is missing.  I can find no trace of him and it may be that he emigrated but with his name being so common and the variations in the spelling of his surname, I have been unable to find him.

I hope someone can help me break down these brick walls!

Anne



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