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Hi Andrew
Many thanks for all the information.  Apologies for delay in acknowledgement, we had to drop everything to go to our daughters in Stafford as she has health problems.
Am sifting through the information and it all seems to fit convincingly. I need to spend more time making sure I understand it all before I come back to you.  Once again, many thanks for your time and detailed information.

regards
Peter

Hi Andrew
Many thanks for your rapid and helpful response.  It is encouraging to have someone else with experience to confirm my conclusion.  It was the change from Morton to Murton that put doubt into my mind.
I have marriage record of William Murton and Frances Slater at Earsdon 1 Dec 1827 from Bishops Transcripts.  I have nothing for birth of William other than his age of 42 in 1851 census giving birth about 1809 at Byker.
I can see possible deaths for William 1875 and 1881 both Newcastle and Frances 1864 Tynemouth.  But this would mean they should both be in 1861 census and William in 1871 census but I can't find them anywhere so I have no idea where they were.

As I said I know nothing definite about birth of William and I know nothing about his parents so any information you may have would be useful.

Many thanks
Peter Crowther

Hi Ron, thanks for the message.  I got all excited when I saw it because I thought someone had some info about Robert re South Carolina!  Robert certainly had a daughter Mary who married John Pogson.  Robert had two families with different women.  His first family with his wife Elizabeth Jemmison produced four children that I know of (john King, Susannah, Elizabeth and James).  He also had two children with his "Mistress" Mary, these were Isaac born around 1834 (my 2nd Great Grandfather) and Mary born about 1849.  So my GGGrandfather Isaac and your GGrandmother Mary were full brother and sister.  I wrote an article about Robert and Isaac for Northumberland and Durham Family History Society a few years ago which I can send to you as a starter.  Also, somewhere, I have a family photo which includes Mary Crothers (or Crowther) which I will dig out for you.

I have a quote from someone else on your side of the family as follows: "Notes from Karen Farr 24/8/09:     
I mentioned that Cousin Nora had snippets of information about the family. One of them she came up with was that Mary was born in the Monument Hotel in Newcastle Upon Tyne. I have not been able to confirm this at all. The other bit about Mary was that her wedding with John Pogson was a large wedding in Newcastle with 9 bridesmaids, 9 groomsmen and postillions which she described as little boys on horses. I have not found any newspaper reports about this but it is possible there may be one somewhere. I have no idea where she got this information from but she remembered a lot of things she had been told.

If you let me know your email address I will be able to send you copies of whatever I can find, although it will be after Easter now as we are having family to stay.

I would be interested to know which Pogson line you are descended from and without being too personal, how old you are so that I can mentally slot you into some kind of order.  You sound a generation older than I am.

All this is off the top of my head but I will get the info out when I reply again.  Robert was a very interesting character who was a leading player in the Chartist movement in Newcastle.

regards
Peter

Hi, In the 1911 census my GGGrandmother Elisabeth Ann Preston aged 66 was living in North Shields, Northumberland and her occupation recorded as "Registered Midwife".  I presume she achieved registration as a result of experience by helping other members of her community.  Do you know if there is any information eg local registration lists available without having to go to the National Archives?
regards
Peter

I'm not saying Isaac actually knew these people, I think he wrote to them on behalf of a Newcastle political committee in relation to political issues and they replied.

regards

Peter Crowther