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Armed Forces / Re: were soldiers buried with medals?
« on: Sunday 12 February 23 13:01 GMT (UK)  »
Forgive me for this, but I do not quite understand why you are SO SO desperate to find his original medals.  Yes, I agree that it would be very nice to have them. 

My grandfather died in WW1, leaving a widow and only daughter.  When my parents died, I, as the only child, inherited everything.  In a box of jewellery I found one broken medal - he was awarded two (British War medal and Victory medal).  Rather than just throw it away, my instinct was to have the broken medal repaired and refurbished, and I then found that I could buy a replica medal for the missing item, which I did, along with a replica WW1 Memorial Scroll.  I am more than happy with that solution.

Hi BumbleB,
Long story short I have never personally met any of my family on this side other than my father, I originally started researching due to this which lead me on a long long journey which I am most grateful for as I've learnt so much.

No living relatives have anything that's been passed down. I'm not sure as to why as I wasn't around... I'm not desperate for them I think my biggest conflict in my mind is I don't know where they are... no living relative does.

I've had a tough time with the Gillbanks side. Some due to lack to knowledge of the family and others just due to documents not being avaliable. Having these medals would be about as close as I can get to something being passed down and I suppose its an attachment and I'd like to have them in the family if possible rather than being sold time and time again if they are out there

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Armed Forces / Re: were soldiers buried with medals?
« on: Sunday 12 February 23 10:55 GMT (UK)  »
Ralph George Gillbanks GRO Death Index = September Quarter 1956 Surrey Mid East  Vol 5g page 215 aged 61
I found James Benjamin died age 40  Surrey West in March Quarter 1941
But Ralph was One of 13 Children to Benjamin and Mary Ann
The Informant on Ralph's Death Certificate is Most Likely his Widow Dora
He Married Dora Billett (born 26 Aug 1894) in December Quarter 1937 they had No Children
Dora Gillbanks died aged 78 in June Quarter 1972 Merton District  Vol 5d page 881
Get her Death Certificate to see who was Informant of her Death
They probably cleared her House and Ralph's Medals which she had 1937 to 1972

Thank you again for the detailed response! I will try and speak to someone on the Billet side which might be able to provide some information, I dont have anyone I know personally but seen a few trees on Ancestry so will try and make contact via there. If not I am unsure where else to turn?

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Armed Forces / Re: were soldiers buried with medals?
« on: Sunday 12 February 23 10:19 GMT (UK)  »
Several of his Burnt Attestation papers when he Re Enlisted in 1919 and went over in 1920 to Germany
He named his Brother James as his Next of Kin in Fulham
Ralph George died September Quarter 1956
His Death Certificate would State who was the Informant of the Desth Registration and their Address
It is highly unlikely they put the Medals in the Coffin
Not ever heard of being buried with Medals before.
So unlikely here in answer to your original question.

Thank you for your reply, James is my direct ancestor. I have his GSM from Iraq. James passed before Ralph so he wouldn't have been the informant, also Agnes (listed on the medal card) passed before Ralph also.
I know the question regarding having medals in his coffin may have seemed strange, but I am clutching at straws, I have been in contact with every living person I can find and none of them have Ralph's medals (most didn't even know a relation to the family)...

I did get James' 1920 gsm Iraq revolt medal reissued by the MOD, but Ralph's was re-issued previously as per the MIC, what would a likely scenario be for medals? Although I have been looking for these medals for some time, I never really took into account what would/could commonly happen with medals when people passed

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Armed Forces / Re: were soldiers buried with medals?
« on: Sunday 12 February 23 09:49 GMT (UK)  »
I can see that his medals were reissued in October 1923. [ I can’t read it clearly)
i think they may have been sent to a Miss A Gillbanks, Lillyville Rd SW16.

Someone will come along to add to this.

Yes that's his sister who passed in 1928, she also never had children. I am unsure as to what commonly took place with medals (sold off, buried with the soldier, melted down?). I have his brothers Iraq revolt gsm which was reissued to me from the MOD and would love to finally locate these ww1 medals.

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Armed Forces / were soldiers buried with medals?
« on: Sunday 12 February 23 09:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,

bit stuck with some medals which I have been trying to find for a few years now.
I have tried auctions and ebay with no avail so my question is... was it common when someone passed for them to be buried with their medals? The gentleman didn't have children and they weren't passed down any other avenues of the family.

The medals are;
British War Medal
Victory Medal
bearing the inscription:
331033 R.G. GILLBANKS - RAMC Corps

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The Common Room / Re: Ancestry Subscription
« on: Sunday 05 June 22 10:01 BST (UK)  »
I know this has already been said but to concrete it further;

on a computer/laptop, right click the link, save link as... Then save it to your desktop for example and open the link. This worked for me 2 days ago after having the exact same issue and couldn't get it to work any other way

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/offers/subscribe?dna=crossAct

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Cumberland / Re: William Gillbanks of Red Sykes, Matterdale.
« on: Sunday 27 February 22 10:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jim hope you are well, Digging up an old thread here but I wanted to add the info I have;
William who died 1774 married Mary Cockbain.

Williams parents (based on my research) are George Gilbank and Agnes Watson

William and Mary Cockbain had two children,
Thomas Gilbank 1740
George Gilbank 1741

William I think was previously married to Elizabeth Ritson and they had two children
Robert Gilbank 1731
Mary Gilbank 1734

George 1741 Married Sarah Dawson, I only know of one child John Gilbanks b1771

John Married Elizabeth Relph/Relf and they had a fair few children

Mary Gilbanks 1798
John Gilbanks 1800
Joesph Gilbanks 1803
Hannah Gilbanks 1804
Sarah Gilbanks 1807
Benjamin Gilbanks 1809
William Relph Gilbanks 1813
Elizabeth Gilbanks 1815
James Gilbanks 1816

You wont find some of these baptisms, from memory 1815 and 1816 only exist within parish records and were never transcribed online. As you know Jim I descend from James 1816.

Heres one descendant thats sure to jog your memory;

Joesph 1803 had a Daughter Hannah b1847 who married Richard Mason I'm sure you know the rest for this line.

I hope this is useful or for anyone else looking at this line, Gillbanks within the Threlkeld area can be troublesome. To add to the mix John and Elizabeth Relph/Relf has some children Baptised in Whitehaven. From memory it was William 1813, Elizabeth 1815 and James 1816. The others I think where Threlkeld.

 

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The Common Room / Re: 1845 birth certificate query.
« on: Sunday 27 February 22 10:16 GMT (UK)  »
Mary's brother Thomas Smitton was married twice at the ancient church of St Helen's in Sefton. Per Lan-OPC:
 
5 Jun 1844
Thomas Smitton - Stone mason - Bachelor of Seaforth
Margaret Birckett - Spinster of Seaforth, Sephton
Groom's Father: James Smitton, Stone mason
Bride's Father: William Birckett, Farmer
Witnesses: Margaret Braithwaite; Robert Smitton; Margaret Jones
   
12 Oct 1854
Thomas Smitton - Stone mason -Widower of Seaforth
Margaret Gillbanks - Spinster of Seaforth
Groom's Father: James Smitton, Stone mason
Bride's Father: Joseph Gillbanks, Grocer
Witnesses: John Tyson; Jane Lawson; George Gatley
 

Mr Tyson & His daughter are of relation to myself interestingly. I do know of a living descendant from that line and he has provided me with much information

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World War One / Re: Duke Of Cornwalls Light Infantry Records (stuck please help!)
« on: Sunday 09 January 22 20:25 GMT (UK)  »
There is no record of him being awarded BWM or VM so he didn't serve in an overseas theatre of war before 12 November 1918.
Thank you, I guess its just a tactic to try get me to sign up!

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