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Europe / Re: Exploring French records for Italian immigrant ancestors
« on: Tuesday 20 April 21 22:38 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the suggestion I'll have a look at Liverpool. Marble floor laying/ marble polisher is on some of the records I've seen for the Sabinis too!

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Europe / Re: Exploring French records for Italian immigrant ancestors
« on: Tuesday 20 April 21 11:05 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: garstonite on Tuesday 20 April 21 08:22 BST (UK)
Augusto Sabini born France 1884
so possibly the right family ?

Hi, yeah they ended up in London, that census is the first real evidence of them arriving from France - the Augusto was born in Paris and the Battista Sabini listed is my Great-Grandfather

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Europe / Exploring French records for Italian immigrant ancestors
« on: Sunday 18 April 21 13:50 BST (UK)  »
Hello, I have just acquired my x2 Grandfather's birth record from his Italian hometown, Borgotaro.  On the record it also lists his Marriage details, which it seems occurred at the Italian consulate in Marseille, France in December 1878.   I had heard that my Italian ancestors spent time in Paris before moving to London, but did not know they lived/married here.

I am interested to find more records/details of them in France but don't know how/where to search French records. Any help for finding more about them or how/where I can search French records online would be greatly appreciated. Key details I have so far:

Domenico Sabini (b. 1852) marries - Maria Catterina Francesca Campomenoso (aged 20) in 1878 in Marseille France.  Maria's father Giovanni Battista Campomenoso is a witness at this wedding and also lives in Marseille at this time.

Thanks in advance.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Dawson - Fulton family arrangement - 1841 Census
« on: Sunday 28 February 21 00:29 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: MonicaL on Saturday 27 February 21 22:24 GMT (UK)
Ann shows as living with her son James in 1891. I wonder if this is her death?

Ann DAWSON/MONAGHAN
Age 56
1891
646/2 431
Govan

Are you descended from son James or daughter Margaret?

Monica

I'm quite sure I'm descended from Patricks son James:

James Dawson (1855) > James Dawson (1883) > William Robertson Notman Dawson (1915, my grandfather)  - this is how I have it so far

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Lanarkshire / Re: Dawson - Fulton family arrangement - 1841 Census
« on: Saturday 27 February 21 20:44 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Forfarian on Saturday 27 February 21 13:20 GMT (UK)
Is your Patrick the shoemaker who was married to Ann? (Note that the one in 1841 was a labourer.)

Thanks for the informative reply. Yes I believe the shoemaker Patrick is my ancestor through his son James and grandson James who were also shoemakers.

I found an 1848 marriage between a Patrick Dawson and Ann Monaghan in Glasgow on that website you recommended, but I will take your suggestion and start buying credits to confirm vital records

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Lanarkshire / Dawson - Fulton family arrangement - 1841 Census
« on: Saturday 27 February 21 10:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I've been tracing my Dawson heritage in Glasgow and getting back as far as my x3 Grandfather Patrick Dawson it states on various census records that he was originally from Ireland. However what's puzzling me is that on the 1841 census (which I am quite sure is him although other census state his birth as 1830), everyone in the household has the family name Fulton, and only he is listed as Dawson.  - I'm interested if there is a common explanation for this different family name e.g. adoption? illegitimacy? And how I might find out more about this.

Secondly, has anyone any tips for tracing back to Ireland if indeed this is where he's born?

Thanks

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Europe / Re: Italian Research
« on: Monday 30 November 20 13:13 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: steve62 on Sunday 29 November 20 16:57 GMT (UK)
member1799
Right see if I can sort this one out.
Its a pleasure.

Steve

Thanks Steve

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London and Middlesex / Baptista Sabini, c. 1890 - No Birth Certificate. No census record
« on: Sunday 29 November 20 18:13 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

My Great Grandfather is proving a bit of a mystery and I am eager to find out more about him and discover further evidence of records if possible.

He was Baptista Sabini on most records and was born in Holborn, London around 1890 to Italian immigrants, Domenico Sabini and Maria Campominosi. The strange thing is that he was a middle child, but while all his elder and younger siblings have birth certificates, he does not seem to have one (at least not one I can find online).

I have found a record of his baptism at St Peters Italian Church in Clerkenwell, which is in latin and lists his name as Joannes Baptista Antonius Sabini (Giovanni Baptista Anthony Sabini) with Domenico and Maria as parents. This baptism took place on 9th March 1890 and gives his birth date as 20th February 1890. 

My grandmother recalled that his birth may have been acknowledged after the fact maybe at a court, but this is anecdotal evidence and I do not know whether a birth certificate or acknowledgement of his existence would have been produced from this that I can acquire.

Furthermore, I cannot find him in the Sabini household in the 1891 census, and the earliest I can find him after his baptism is in the 1901 census as 'Battista Sabini' in the household.  He doesn't appear on the 1911 census either, and its only his 1915 marriage to Rose Clifton that I pick up the trail again... so I'm eager to try and find out more about his early life, and particularly obtain his vital records and circumstances of birth.

Thanks

Thanks

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Europe / Re: Italian Research
« on: Sunday 29 November 20 14:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I've been at a dead-end for a long while researching my Great-Great Grandparents, and would be grateful for any help you could offer.

My Great-Great Grandfather, Domenico Sabini was born c. 1852 in Borgo val di Taro (Emilia Romagna, Province Parma).

His wife, Maria Campominosi (Campomenosi?) was born c. 1863, I'm not sure where, but this surname is also common in Emilia Romagna and Liguria regions of Italy according to online name maps.

I have been trying to find their vital records, Birth and Marriage since I only have evidence of them from census records and childrens baptisms once they arrived in London, UK. However, their first child Augusto/Antoine was born in Paris in 1883, so I cannot rule out the possibility that Domenico and Maria may have met and married in France rather than Italy.

Thanks for reading

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