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Armed Forces / Re: Help required identifying military uniform and location.
« on: Wednesday 01 March 23 18:34 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks for your replies and information.

Neale1961  I agree the uniform is similar but not sure that the Scinde Horse turban is a match as the stripes on the turbans on the photo appear to be of equal width.  I think the Poona horse turban is more of a match but the braid on the sleeves is different.  As MaecW says hopefully someone reading this will know.

MaecW   Thanks for pointing out the spurs, I hadn’t noticed them on the photo and I was wondering what the bag was so thanks for that.

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Armed Forces / Re: Help required identifying military uniform and location.
« on: Tuesday 28 February 23 23:22 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks for your reply Andy, very helpful.
As you suggested I’ve been trying to identify the turban and wonder if the Poona Horse regiment might be a possibility, it looks very similar to me.  (Alamy.com - The Poona Horse) 
Would they wear trousers and shoes?


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Armed Forces / Help required identifying military uniform and location.
« on: Tuesday 28 February 23 12:40 GMT (UK)  »
I'm interested to discover who and where the people in this photo are and if they would be connected in anyway to my husband’s ggg uncle, William Barnfather, and the time he spent out in India?  William (born 1818 in Alnwick, Northumberland) worked for the Department of Public Works between 1858-1880 as an Executive Engineer in Bengal.

The photo is from a very old family album and I only have a photocopy of it so sorry about the quality.

Any help much appreciated.

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Armed Forces / Re: Help needed with identifying uniform
« on: Monday 22 February 21 18:38 GMT (UK)  »
I have a final update regarding information received from the Sussex record office.  They have in fact found several references to a John Athey in the Volunteer muster returns -

(1878) included Gunner J Athey of Brighton, no. 2407, enrolled on 2 April 1874. The return for 1874 confirmed this enrolment date and added his forename, John.
 (1884) recorded him, initial only, as Corporal, with no. 2409, in No. 4 Battery, Brighton. 
(1887) entered him as Sergeant J Athey, again no. 2409 in the same battery.
He passed his certificate of proficiency on 13 December 1884.

So given the confirmation that his forename was John, I think there’s no doubt that John William Athey, born 1850, is indeed the man in my photo.  As you say, it’s great when things come together like this, so thanks for your help, it’s been really interesting.

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Armed Forces / Re: Help needed with identifying uniform
« on: Friday 12 February 21 10:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hi T1, since my last post I have finally found John Athey on the 1881 census and he was living in Brighton.  His name had been written down as John W Attrey!.  His occupation was that of Drapers Clerk and he was living at Hanningtons cottages, King’s Rd together with a lot of other drapers assistants so I assume it was some kind of accommodation for staff working at Hanningtons department store .  I’ve discovered that the owner of Hanningtons store , Charles S Hannington, was a major in the 1st Sussex AVC, so perhaps there’s some connection there?

I also searched newspaper archives and have now found mention of a Corporal Athey and a Sergeant Athey in 1884 and 1887 in the Volunteer Service Gazette under the section headed the 1st Sussex AVC and also a Sergeant Athey in the July 4th 1885 Brighton Daily Gazette.  Unfortunately they only mention his surname but, like you say, it’s a fairly uncommon name so I’m fairly confident this is my man.  I take it from this that he became a sergeant between 1884-85.  Perhaps the photograph was taken on his promotion?

I followed up on your suggestion of contacting The Keep and they do hold Volunteer enrolment returns so I have asked them to do a search for me of the relevant years to see if his name comes up.  It would be nice to prove it’s definitely him and what year he enrolled.

Once again thanks very much, I couldn’t have got this far without your help.

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Armed Forces / Re: Help needed with identifying uniform
« on: Saturday 30 January 21 18:46 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks T1 for the information provided in your last post.

I have been doing some more research this week and discovered from Electoral Registers that a family member, John William Athey, who was on my list of possibilities, did live in Brighton in the late 1880’s - 1890.  He was born in 1850, never married, so taking everything into consideration I think there's a good chance that it could be him in the photo.  It’s frustrating though that I can’t find him anywhere on the 1881 census so not sure if he was in Brighton before 1887 which is where I found him living at 10 Brighton Place.

I’ll follow up on your suggestion that he may have belonged to the 1st Sussex AVC when local archive offices reopen. 

Once again, many thanks for your assistance, it’s the first time I’ve used Rootschat and I’ve found it most helpful.

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Armed Forces / Re: Help needed with identifying uniform
« on: Saturday 23 January 21 17:48 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks T1 for taking the time to reply to my uniform query, it’s very much appreciated.

I’m clutching at straws here but is there any possibility a vetinary surgeon in the Royal Artillery wore this uniform?

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Armed Forces / Help needed with identifying uniform
« on: Monday 18 January 21 20:35 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone help please in identifying this uniform.  After researching the photographer,  W & A H Fry, East Street, Brighton, I believe the photo would have been taken between 1880-1900?  I’ve only ever had a photocopy of the original so it’s not the best quality but am I right in thinking it would have been taken at the actual studio in Brighton  -  ie can I assume he had a connection with Brighton or the surrounding area at some point?
Also, can anyone hazard a guess as to how old he is?
Any help would be much appreciated.

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