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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: orpanages/childrens homes/asylums in arbroath
« on: Wednesday 18 August 21 02:49 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for the reply. Since I asked... I learned more. Arthur Scott's children were there for a time when Arthur had been captured by rebels in the Congo and presumed to be possibly dead. At the time, Arthur Scott was a medical missionary with the same organization that ran the orphanage.

He was later rescued along with others also captured and held.

This explains the photo I mentioned that I have.

I should have updated this thread and apologize that I did not. 


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Thanks to all who offered suggestions. My own research has identified the photo as the wedding of James Scott to Helen Dobbie, 13 Jun 1905.

Wedding took place in Stirling, Scotland. I was able to positively identify several in the photo and have some possibilities for others.

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: orpanages/childrens homes/asylums in arbroath
« on: Wednesday 04 August 21 16:41 BST (UK)  »
Old post or not....the family I mentioned had the surname Searle. Parents were involved with the Elms. I do not know for how long they were involved. The person I know..have not seen them for a while and does not live in Arbroath. If/when I see him again I will ask.

Thanks so much for the reply - much appreciated.

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: orpanages/childrens homes/asylums in arbroath
« on: Tuesday 03 August 21 11:58 BST (UK)  »
The Elms is now derelict. Don't know what the council is thinking. It is quite a substantial building built by someone who was involved in the flax trade. I know a child of the people who ran it at one time.
I realize this is a very old post - but will take a chance the author is still around and checking here :)


Do you recall their last name? I just came across a photo - "Greetings From The Scott Family. The Elms, Arbroath."

I believe the father in the photo may be a James Scott, 2nd cousin once removed, of mine - and am trying to find out if he and his family had something to do with the orphanage.


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Eggy, so much appreciate your efforts here! I'll have a longer look later this evening and see if I can find something that I can at least google and see what comes up.

Thanks so much!

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Thanks, Ian! That provides an interesting perspective and seems to bring out the facial appearances to my eyes.

Appreciate your effort!

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Also, a description of the place names coming up for you https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/forfarshire-angus-os-name-books-1857-1861/forfar-angus-volume-28/41

Monica

Enjoyed seeing that! The map of Dundee was really interesting and helpful as well, that's linked to below the information. Thank you, Monica!

Ian

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1874 photo of the general area www.nationalgalleries.org/art-and-artists/88116/stewarts-court-looking-seagate-towards-gellatly-street-dundee

The family showed at Seagate in 1851 didn't they?

Monica

You are very observant! :) Yes, they were at Seagate in 1851.

Thanks for linking to the photo. Doesn't look like a place I'd like to live.... imagining living in such a neighbourhood and having lots of children... I think I would have stayed in Dysart :)

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You mentioned that father had died four years after the 1851 census? Was this 1855 or 1854? An 1855 death cert would normally give you how many children father had (their names and ages when he died).

Monica

Hi Monica - no, it is the 1861 census, not 1851. The death cert is 1865, lists his address, his occupation, his wife's name, and parents' names including mother's maiden name. No place for children (other than it was one of them, his son, that reported/registered the death).

I may have other research to do on the census. It only provides an address of Stewarts Court - but there were several street names in Stewarts Court, Dundee. The death cert has Gellatly Street, Stewart's court, but the census does not seem to have that information that I can see.

I realize the family in the census is probably the one I'm researching - but I don't like "probables" if there are ways to get to "definites." :)

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