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Louth / Re: Coogan Research dundalk
« on: Thursday 23 December 21 13:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone for chipping in, I just want to put these details here for clarity as I am also a descendant of Rose Coogan and would like to assist Fire1905 in hopefully connecting with anyone who can fill in any blanks there are.
Here are the facts as we already have them documented:
Rose Coogan b. 23rd Dec 1870 Dundalk Father - Andrew Coogan / Mother Mary Lambe
Rose Anne Coogan m. George Fletcher (Private East Lancashire Regiment) 30th Aug 1890 Dundalk / St. Nicholas Church of Ireland.
We have no confirmed birth or death records for George Fletcher (yet) nor any records of children from this marriage. We confidently are presuming,through Fire1905 research, that he was British (possibly Manchester region)
George Fletcher must have died approx some time between 1890 and 1896.
I am no military expert but the 2nd Battalion of the East Lancs was based partly in Ireland and I could not find any active service for them between 1890 and 1896 to account for his death.
Rose Anne Coogan gave birth to Thomas Coogan 28th April 1896 Belfast Workhouse. No Father recorded on birth cert.
Rose Anne Coogan m. William Carr (Labourer) July 26th 1896 Belfast / St. Annes Church of Ireland.
Rose Anne Coogan gave birth to William Carr 20th July 1897 Dundalk /William Carr recorded as Father.
Rose Anne Coogan gave birth to George Henry Carr 12th October 1901 Dundalk/ William Carr recorded as Father.
George Henry Carr d. 1902
The Husband William Carr died between 1901 and 1905, we have no confirmed records as yet.
Rose Anne Coogan m. George William Kemp ( Royal Field Artiliery ) 6th July 1905 Belfast / St. Marys Church of Ireland.
Even with the disparity of ages given on the wedding certificates by Rose Anne Coogan We absolutely think it is the same person not just due to the father’s name And occupation on the wedding certs and but also the census results that can corroborate her family and whereabouts at the time of the census. (She must have been very evasive about giving her correct age!)
Rose Anne Coogan gave birth to George Robert Kemp on 8th April 1912 Dundalk/ George William Kemp recorded as Father.
The branch we are trying to clear up is Thomas Coogan born 28th April 1896 Belfast Workhouse. with No Father recorded on birth cert it posed obvious questions , he didn’t have the name Fletcher nor Carr recorded as his birth name. So that is the Million dollar question. We do know he married a Rose Kimmins and had 3 Children and we also know of the grandchildren etc.
Here are the facts as we already have them documented:
Rose Coogan b. 23rd Dec 1870 Dundalk Father - Andrew Coogan / Mother Mary Lambe
Rose Anne Coogan m. George Fletcher (Private East Lancashire Regiment) 30th Aug 1890 Dundalk / St. Nicholas Church of Ireland.
We have no confirmed birth or death records for George Fletcher (yet) nor any records of children from this marriage. We confidently are presuming,through Fire1905 research, that he was British (possibly Manchester region)
George Fletcher must have died approx some time between 1890 and 1896.
I am no military expert but the 2nd Battalion of the East Lancs was based partly in Ireland and I could not find any active service for them between 1890 and 1896 to account for his death.
Rose Anne Coogan gave birth to Thomas Coogan 28th April 1896 Belfast Workhouse. No Father recorded on birth cert.
Rose Anne Coogan m. William Carr (Labourer) July 26th 1896 Belfast / St. Annes Church of Ireland.
Rose Anne Coogan gave birth to William Carr 20th July 1897 Dundalk /William Carr recorded as Father.
Rose Anne Coogan gave birth to George Henry Carr 12th October 1901 Dundalk/ William Carr recorded as Father.
George Henry Carr d. 1902
The Husband William Carr died between 1901 and 1905, we have no confirmed records as yet.
Rose Anne Coogan m. George William Kemp ( Royal Field Artiliery ) 6th July 1905 Belfast / St. Marys Church of Ireland.
Even with the disparity of ages given on the wedding certificates by Rose Anne Coogan We absolutely think it is the same person not just due to the father’s name And occupation on the wedding certs and but also the census results that can corroborate her family and whereabouts at the time of the census. (She must have been very evasive about giving her correct age!)
Rose Anne Coogan gave birth to George Robert Kemp on 8th April 1912 Dundalk/ George William Kemp recorded as Father.
The branch we are trying to clear up is Thomas Coogan born 28th April 1896 Belfast Workhouse. with No Father recorded on birth cert it posed obvious questions , he didn’t have the name Fletcher nor Carr recorded as his birth name. So that is the Million dollar question. We do know he married a Rose Kimmins and had 3 Children and we also know of the grandchildren etc.