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England / Re: Registration Act
« on: Friday 08 December 23 21:07 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks everyone for your input.  Just for further background, Charles John Hole's first marriage Nov 28, 1850 to Ann Portington Spring was in the Registrar's office by certificate.  His second marriage in 1857 was by certificate but performed in the church by a vicar.  No children from the first marriage (though as mentioned Ann had an illegitimate child in 1840.  The second marriage produced 8 children Charles 1854, Louisa 1857, Elizabeth 1860, Henrietta 1863, Harriet 1865, Emily 1868, Herbert John 1869 and Louisa 2 in 1870.  The GRO lists the first two Charles and Louisa as having a MMN as Edwards as does Emily, the other children have MMN as Spring.  I am comfortable that this is the same family as the first two have a baptism at the same address as the 1857 marriage 10 Titchborne Row and Elizabeth the 3rd child is baptized the same day as Louisa again at 10 Titchborne Row and the fathers full name is Charles John, cordwainer.  All the available baptism records indicate Charles John and Elizabeth Hole as parents. The mother Elizabeth lists POB Exeter on all the census records and on the 1921 census specifically states St Sidwell Exeter, her DOB is indicated as 1832 to 1836 with 3 of them including the 1921 census indicating 1832.  I have one Elizabeth Edwards born in 1832 in St Sidwell however no Elizabeth Spring.  I have no understanding as to why Elizabeth lists William Spring as her father on the marriage record and I can locate no Elizabeth Spring that fits. Nor why she used Edwards and Spring as a maiden name.  I do note that the probate for the first wife did not complete until 1893 the time of the death of Charles John even though she passed in 1850.  Anyway the search continues.

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England / Registration Act
« on: Sunday 03 December 23 23:53 GMT (UK)  »
I have attached the marriage registration for Charles Hole and Elizabeth Hole.  I note that people have posted other questions about being married by a registrar's certificate vs by banns or license however I am wondering if anyone can advise on The Registration Act of 13th Nov 1850 that is noted under Condition. I can find no reference to it under legislation that I could find and I am wondering if it has anything to do with marrying a relative.  Charles was previously married to Ann Portington Spring a daughter of William Spring who passed a couple of months after the marriage in 1851.  I note that Elizabeth Hole gives William Spring as her father and of course unusual for bride and groom to have the same surname listed Hole. 

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Shropshire / Location: Swan's Village
« on: Sunday 11 December 22 15:11 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for the possible location for Swan's Village.  My relative Sarah Frost (Culey) died in May 1877, the parish register for Burials of Lawley Parish indicates her Abode as Swan's Village.  The vicar on the entry is not the local one but a Vicar of Longdon On Tern.  I don't know if this has any connection to Sarah's family Culey.  Sarah Culey married Joseph Frost in 1837 at the parish of Eyton (Eyton Upon the Weald Moors?) though the marriage certificate indicates they resided at Ketley and Steeraway respectively.  The family resided in the hamlet of Steeraway for the 1841-51-61 & 71 census where Joseph Frost was a limestone miner.  Wondering if anyone has information on Swan's Village.

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