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Nottinghamshire / Re: John Snowden
« on: Sunday 17 June 18 18:16 BST (UK)  »
Your Hannah Snowden may well be the same as the one  on my posts several years ago.
I have her as daughter of John Snowden ( c 1819-1889) and Jane Godson (1828-1899) who seemed to have changed their name to South.
Married as South In 1840. Changed to Snowden, back to South  snd then to Snowden.
See the 1851 census when living in Worksop.
Siblings William Bn1844 mary Bn 1845 Elizabeth Bn 1846 Ann 1847 george 1849 Sarah 1854 Emma 1858 & John 1860.
As the name change is so complicated I can’t trace John South/Snowden Back further but Jane’s ancestors go back to 1700s.
I’m away from home without access to my research so if I can be if any more help let me know.

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Derbyshire / Re: Snowden family Killamarsh.
« on: Thursday 26 June 08 17:46 BST (UK)  »
Thanks v much for the useful replies.
Any ideas on how I might trace them after the 1901 census?    :)

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Derbyshire / Snowden family Killamarsh.
« on: Tuesday 24 June 08 19:33 BST (UK)  »
I would be grateful if anyone has information on the descendants of George Snowden bn Bothamsall Notts 1849 (known then as George South I think). Married Harriet Highfield of Thorpe Salvin 1870.
5 children - Charles Benjamin bn 1872 (my grandfather) so know his history.
                   John bn 1874 Harthill (m Sarah living in Killamarsh 1901)
                   Hannah bn 1877 Harthill
                   William bn 1880 Killamarsh
                    Emma bn 1883 Killamarsh
George was Grocer in Killamarsh in 1881 & 1891 and butcher there in 1901.
If anyone has traced Charles' siblings, I would love to know more about them.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: John Snowden
« on: Sunday 05 November 06 16:33 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your message. My Snowdens go back to the South/Snowden problem in Worksop in 1851/61. After that the Snowdens were living in Carlton in Lindrick, Harthill and Killamarsh and my grandfather then moved to Rutland in 1901. We may have connections of course.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: John Snowden
« on: Tuesday 03 October 06 20:24 BST (UK)  »
Have now got the marriage certificate (13/01/1842) of John South (later Snowden) 1820 - 1889 and Jane Godson. 1820 - 1899 Her father was Thomas Godson of Laxton who lived to be over 80! John had no father so looks like your theory of illigitimacy must be correct. Perhaps he found out who his father was.
On census of 1851 he said he was born in Lincoln and on all subsequent censuses, Walesby Notts.
There is a possible baptism, John South baptised 26 March 1820 St Botolph’s Lincoln. Mother Hannah South, no father.
I think that is about all I can do apart from some research related to Walesby. At least I am back to 1781 with Thomas Godson of Ossington.
Thanks very much Heather and other respondants.


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Nottinghamshire / Re: John Snowden
« on: Wednesday 20 September 06 09:18 BST (UK)  »
Thanks very much - you have really been a great help. Without the help from Rootschat I certainly would not have got this far. I will have a trip to Nottingham soon - another excuse for a day out - and see what I can find. Thanks for your offer of help. I will take it up if I can't find anything.

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Rutland / Re: Fishers of Stoke Dry
« on: Tuesday 19 September 06 18:30 BST (UK)  »
I was born in Stoke Dry. It is a beautiful tiny village with an amazing historic church. I couldn't find any Fishers in the 1851 census but many of the entries were too difficult to read.In 1851 there were about 64 people living inthe census area which included the v small village of Stockerston and the settlements at HolyOakes and Beaumont Chase. 11 households in Stoke Dry. Some of the families in 1851 were those I knew in the 1950's such as the Hinches. My mother talked about Conyers Peach of Holy Oakes so that name must have been passed down through the generations. The rector appeared to be running a boarding school with 5 pupils!

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Nottinghamshire / Re: John Snowden
« on: Tuesday 19 September 06 18:17 BST (UK)  »
 I have found some evidence for the SNOWDEN / SOUTH confusion
In the Bothamsall Parish register - baptisms:-
June 20 1846. Eizabeth daughter of John and Jane Snowden. SNOWDEN is deleted and changed to SOUTH
17 Oct 1847 Ann daughter of John and Jane SOUTH
May 20 1848 George son of John and Jane SOUTH

This fits with the 1851 census when they are living in Bracebridge Worksop. (Haven't traced Mary and William as need the Walesby records)

Next children if we go by the 1861 Census are Sarah and Hannah but can only find Sarah and Hannah South bn to JOhn and Sarah SOUTH but Jane might be calling herself Sarah now! (bn right years)
Then back on track with records from Worksop Priory for
 Eliza South 6/04/51 daughter of John and Jane SOUTH  Cheapside Worksop
Sarah South 4/06/54 daughter of John and Jane SOUTH  GAteford Worksop
Hannah South 25/05/56 daughter of John and Jane SOUTH Gateford Worksop

Then it seems a name change back to SNOWDEN as in 1861 census.
Worksop Priory records
Emma Snowden  2/11/58 d of John and Jane SNOWDEN Shireoaks
John Snowden  16/12/60 s of John and Jane SNOWDEN Worksop

So it seems they might have changed name from South to Snowden briefly after getting married in 1842. Then changed name back to South in 1846 and back to Snowden in about 1858.

At least now I am sure I have the right George! Must follow this up by finding the Walesby records wherever they are and see if there are 2 older South children. Mary bn 1842 and William bn 1844

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Nottinghamshire / Re: John Snowden
« on: Thursday 07 September 06 10:03 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that Heather, I will go along those lines and see what I can find. I think I will spend some time in Worksop Library looking at some parish registers - it will also be a day out!

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