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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: James NEWTON, died & buried in Jersey
« on: Friday 29 September 06 08:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi mike,

Thanks for the offer.   All I know about the notebook is that it was written by his cousin, and she died in 1912 (I am not in possession of the book). 

All I could think is that he was probably an adult, so I would imagine 35 minimum... and then anything up to 80!.

This would narrow the year range to 1832-1877 !!   

If died at usual age then I would think between 50-75 is most likely... making range of years 1845-75 'best guess'.

sorry I can't narrow it down anymore.

Regards,
rob

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Armed Forces / Re: RN insignia - chevrons on both arms
« on: Tuesday 19 September 06 07:22 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Neil.

Salty,

Good Conduct Badges on the left arm:  gold on No.1 unform, red on day to day unform.

Overseas Service/Service at Sea awards right lower arm:  1914 (lowest) chevron red, 1915-1918 chevrons blue - on all uniforms (as i understand it).

ref Overseas Service awards....
"Sea Service Chevrons
In May 1918 the Secretary of the Admiralty announced the conditions for the award to members of the Royal Navy and the other marine services of chevrons for service at sea and overseas.
They will be awarded to denote services overseas, or at sea undertaken since August 4, 1914, and are to be worn in uniform.
Service overseas and at sea is defined as service at sea in sea-going ships of war, auxiliaries, in defensively armed merchant ships as guns’ crews, and those employed in minesweeping. Officers and men of the late R.N. Air Service who, although serving in the United Kingdom, were liable for service in the air for offensive or defensive purposes, may count such service as qualifying service. Service in kite balloons when embarked in ships will also count.
The date for the award of the first chevron will be August 5, 1914, in the case of those serving at sea or abroad on that date. In other cases the date on which the individual began or begins qualifying service as defined - for example, an individual who began qualifying service on December 31, 1915, is entitled to his first chevron on that date.
Additional chevrons are to be awarded as follows:-

From January 1, 1915, to December 31, 1917, inclusive, on a calendar year basis, that is, one chevron and not more than one for each of the years 1915, 1916, and 1917. The individual must have an aggregate of three months' qualifying service in the calendar year to entitle him to the award for that year.

The chevrons will be ¼ in. in width, the arms 1¼ in. long. They will be worn inverted on the right forearm. Chevrons for officers will be of silver or gold braid. The first chevron, if earned on or before December 31, 1914, will be silver; if earned on or after January 1, 1915, it will be gold, and all additional chevrons after the first will be gold. The silver chevron will be worn below the gold one. For ratings they will be of worsted embroidery of two colours - red and blue. The first chevron, if carried on or before December 31, 1914, will be red; if earned on or after January 1, 1915 it will be blue; and all additional chevrons after the first will be blue.
In the case of officers they are to be worn on the blue undress coat only.
The chevrons are a distinction to be worn on uniform to denote service at sea or overseas since the outbreak of war, and are not to be regarded as being in the nature of a reward. There will, therefore, be no posthumous award to fallen officers or men. The chevrons may be worn in plain clothes by officers and men who have left the Service, but who would, had they remained in the Service, have been entitled to wear them on uniform. In such cases, application for authority to wear the chevrons must be made."

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Armed Forces / Re: RN insignia - chevrons on both arms
« on: Monday 18 September 06 18:48 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for clarifying salty.

updated pic... with what I think are correct colours (as close as i can get them!) for various parts of uniform

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Armed Forces / Re: RN insignia - chevrons on both arms
« on: Monday 18 September 06 17:30 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again Salty,

At the time of the photo he was an Able Seaman or Seaman Gunner (this is still an Able Seaman?) 

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Armed Forces / Re: RN insignia - chevrons on both arms
« on: Monday 18 September 06 07:28 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Salty,

someone sent me the regs for the good conduct badges at the time of ww1.  first given for 3 years, then second for next five and so on.  so he did have them for 8 years total.

also another person pointed out his "bosun's mate" chain, and looking closely at the pic it definitely is a chain.   on his service record he just goes through ranks Ordinary seaman, Able Sean and Gunner Seaman.  Wouldnt the rank that you say his chain signifies be recorded on his record?

Also.... what actually is the function/duties of a QM mate/Bosuns mate?

Thanks again

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Isaac NEWTON died & buried in Jersey
« on: Friday 15 September 06 16:18 BST (UK)  »
Thanks A,

yes, it is possible that he was there for a period less than 10 years - between the census.

Do they have access to any parish register indexes in Jersey?  If not it would be a hopeless task i imagine.

Thanks again

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Isaac NEWTON died & buried in Jersey
« on: Friday 15 September 06 15:27 BST (UK)  »
yes, my fault for concentrating on two brothers at the same time!


The Jersey connection and ALL known facts.

Isaac NEWTON.   Born and baptised in Branscombe, Devon in 1797.

No more records found of him in Branscombe.

From a contemporary notebook written by HIS cousin (date unknown, but pre 1912) the following statement about Isaac....

  "DIED & WAS BURIED IN JERSEY"

This is the ONLY mention I have of him after his baptism.   NO marriage details - if he ever got married.  NO death or burial dates either.

So, all I know is that he was on Jersey at some time and died there.  I ASSUME he was an adult, so the span for his time on the island could be anywhere between 1820-1890.

I hope this makes it clearer for all... including me!   :-\

Thanks once more

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Isaac NEWTON died & buried in Jersey
« on: Friday 15 September 06 13:42 BST (UK)  »
when i put 1797 for his birth before that was a mistake as that was his brother James birthdate

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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Isaac NEWTON died & buried in Jersey
« on: Friday 15 September 06 13:39 BST (UK)  »
Hello again Wendy.

Unfortunately I just have the statement  "DIED & WAS BURIED IN JERSEY" written in a notebook by a cousin of the family who died in 1912.

All i know for a fact is that he was born in Branscombe 1799. 

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