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Other Countries / Re: John Taylor b abt 1810 - 1877 India H.E.I.C.S
« on: Monday 22 July 19 09:16 BST (UK)  »
Hello again
Sorry I hadn't seen your last post - yes I had thought that too.

The evidence from the wills I have seen is pointed:
In 1843 Wm Graham, Lt Col Taylor's father in law ignores John Taylor in his will and but leaves items to all the other children Lt Col Taylor.
I think it was Lt Col John Taylor's mother who mentions the adopted son of Lt Col John Taylor

Interesting that John Taylor who died in Kasauli named his home Woodcot which was the name of his paternal Gt Grandfather's home in Scotland.

many thanks again - would love to know more about this John Taylor who d. Kasauli but not sure where to turn now any ideas gratefully accepted.

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Other Countries / Re: John Taylor b abt 1810 - 1877 India H.E.I.C.S
« on: Saturday 20 July 19 11:44 BST (UK)  »
Thank you yes I did find those - what an interesting life he had

I should point out Sarah Speedys memoirs claim she met Col John Graham when her family travelled to Africa 1826-27 and that she helped him survey what would become Grahamstown, but this cannot be correct as Col John Graham died in 1821 and he had established Grahamstown in 1812. Sarah Speedy was not born until 1818.

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Other Countries / Re: John Taylor b abt 1810 - 1877 India H.E.I.C.S
« on: Saturday 20 July 19 11:09 BST (UK)  »
oh goodness yes of course and I don't like my chances of searching through all the Johns born in Scotland during that period... :(
It may just have to remain a mystery.

John the future Asst Magistrate would have been about 13 when Lt Col John Taylor (he was a Capt then) married Sarah Falconar Graham in 1823 in Bombay

It was in Feb 1827 that the "young John Taylor" was travelling out from South Africa to India on the same ship as his future wife Tristiana and the rest of the Squire family.

It sounds a fascinating story I wish we could manage to find out who John's mother was.

many thanks again for all your help.

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Other Countries / Re: John Taylor b abt 1810 - 1877 India H.E.I.C.S
« on: Saturday 20 July 19 09:58 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much! I'd been concentrating my search in India not Scotland as the other children were born there.
It seems very likely Asst. Commissioner John Taylor was Lt Col John Taylor's son - No John Taylors born around that time in or around Musselburgh that I can see though who have a father called John Taylor. I wondered if he was the son of Lt Col Tyalors brother Alexander as a John Taylor was b. abt. that time in Musselburgh to an Alexander but his brother Alexander died in 1807.

I haven't found any evidence that Lt Col John Taylor was provost at Edin. University (or any other John Taylor's for that matter). I think this was an exaggeration perhaps stemming from John Taylor M.A. the Rector of Musselburgh Grammar.


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Other Countries / Re: John Taylor b abt 1810 - 1877 India H.E.I.C.S
« on: Saturday 20 July 19 06:17 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for your help.

Great to know John Taylor is listed as John jnr's Father in the marriage certficate.

Sarah Speedys memoirs have a few inaccuracies but make fascinating reading.
Lt Col Taylor's father was John Taylor rector of the Musselburgh grammar school - not provost at Edinburgh University.

Does anyone know if and how I can get a death certificate for John Taylor who died 21 Jun 1877 in Kasauli, Bengal? Would this perhaps give a more accurate birth date, time in India, etc?

many thanks again
Liz

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Other Countries / John Taylor b abt 1810 - 1877 India H.E.I.C.S
« on: Friday 19 July 19 13:17 BST (UK)  »
Hello

I have a Gt Gt Gt Grandfather John Taylor (1788-1841)who was Lt Col in India before retiring to Scotland. He was a cadet in 1804, made Lt. 1806, Capt in 1823 then 6 days later married Sarah Falconar Graham in Bombay. Sarah and John went on to have 7 children between 1824-1839.

There was however another much older adopted son  who died 21 Jun 1877 in Kasauli, Bengal a retired extra assistant commissioner. Going from John Taylor jnr's gravestone he would have been born abt 1810 when the senior John Taylor was a Lieutenant of abt 22 years old. He married a Tristiana Squire in Oct 1842 in India DumDum, Calcutta
Tristiana's sister wrote a memoir and said that they had met a young JohnTaylor when they were travelling from South Africa to India in 1826-1827 but I'm not sure if these dates are accurate. Lt Col John Taylor's mother mentions the jnr John Taylor in her will as the adopted son of Lt Col Taylor in 1826.

Is there any way to find proof of who the jnr John Taylor's parents were? I'm guessing he is the son of Lt Col John Taylor but have no idea who his mother might be but I can't find any John Taylors born around this time in India.

I would be very grateful for any hints or pointers .

Liz

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Midlothian / Re: Sarah Falconer / John Taylor M.A. rector Musselburgh Grammar School
« on: Thursday 11 October 18 10:30 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much again for all your investigative work.
The river that William Graham Taylor drowned in was infact the Oreti in Southland and another article confirms this information.

Lake Wakatip Mail  16 September 1875  Page 2
We hear that a man named Taylor (one of two brothers who were till lately, Martin's Bay settlers) has been found drowned in the Oreti River. The body was lying on Saturday in an out-house near Fletcher's Accomodation house, when Mr J. M'Bride of this town identified it as that abovenamed, who, we hear, was travelling down on foot about fortnight previous to meet his brother at Invercargill.

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Midlothian / Re: Sarah Falconer / John Taylor M.A. rector Musselburgh Grammar School
« on: Wednesday 10 October 18 10:31 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks again. 2 mysteries solved with one newspaper article how wonderful. Oddly enough I can't find an Orell river in New Zealand but now I have a date, a cause of death and a country. I'm so grateful for all your wonderful investigative work.
Many thanks
Liz

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Midlothian / Re: Sarah Falconer / John Taylor M.A. rector Musselburgh Grammar School
« on: Monday 08 October 18 11:22 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the link unfortunately I can only see as much as you can.
I've searched for a death in NZ for a William Graham Taylor and there is not one around that time in BMDs or in newspapers of the time.
Interesting the possible African connection because his older adopted brother (John Taylor) is mentioned in a diary travelling from Africa to India in 1827 so the family did travel (a lot!).
I cannot find evidence of William Graham Taylor in Fiji either. The 2 bothers who ended up there were Charles Metcalfe and Archibald Taylor.
His older brothers were in the army in India Alexander who died the following year 23 Sept 1876
and John in HEICS in India died after 1870
IF this is our William Graham Taylor it would explain a great deal - he and his brother were not successful in their land purchases and as discussed 2 of the brothers and a brother in law went to Fiji .
You mention his marriage - I don't have any record of a marriage could you give me the details and I can try to investigate further too?

many thanks again
Liz

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