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Australia / Re: List of Registration Districts in Victoria?
« on: Wednesday 03 August 22 07:11 BST (UK)  »
Thanks to both of you for your help

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Australia / Re: List of Registration Districts in Victoria?
« on: Tuesday 02 August 22 12:25 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone tell me what registration district "ADALE" is an abbreviation for?

It is used for Mabel Wilson's birth in 1899

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Surrey / Re: Coulsdon and Purley, 1939 Register
« on: Thursday 13 January 22 11:41 GMT (UK)  »
I also have someone in the institution with the letters CMMG and suspected it was Netherne Asylum. I had the same problem locating the first page, so I tried a search with surname A* and kept trying till I landed in CMMG.

CMMG turns out to be Cane Hill Hospital - another asylum just a couple of miles north from Netherne. It evidently had a capacity of 2,400 patients.  It looks like the 1939 register submissions might have been done in blocks of 300 individuals, and males would have been in separate blocks from females.

The first person on the CMMG page was Henry George Abbott born 1868.

I haven't found any proper definition of the codes so this is a working theory.


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I'd like the full details from this marriage please - particularly James Charman's age, status, occupation and fathers details.

12 Sep 1876
Nottingham St Andrews
James Charman marriage to Caroline Drakeley

Regards, Colin Charman

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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: CHARMAN one name study
« on: Thursday 16 July 20 13:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I suspect Ive found all the BDMs for those early Charmans, they are all in the profiles in my tree. But I'd be the last to say that everything in my tree is "right" - some of it barely qualifies as "plausible"!! Unfortunately they didn't leave a lot of written evidence behind!

Its about 20 years since I reached the conclusion that John (m Sarah Stanford) was the son of Francis and Ann and I really don't have anything in the way of notes.  About all I can say is that theres a thread of being "Yeomen" that comes down from John (about 1550, married to Ann Boorer), through Robert, then Francis and to John and his siblings.  But there are other threads of yeomen coming down from John (abt 1550) and indeed his siblings.  My GGGGGGGGfather was a John born around 1620-ish, and a Yeoman, and due to the naming convention of the time, every branch of every generation had a John in it, and its practically impossible to distinguish them.

I've generally used two methods to try to sort out who was who.  One was wills/land/wealth and the other was naming conventions.  Both are hit-and-miss!

With the naming conventions, I can see Francis, John and Robert being passed down as a name in "your" line. In my line, names like Richard, Henry/Harry and John prevail.  If you look up the exact details of the convention they don't seem to have followed them rigorously, but its a clue.

I believe that apparent moving between Slinfold and Warnham doesn't mean anyone actually move house.  There are a group of farms SW of Warnham associated with some parts of the family that lie on the Slinfold side of the A281 Guildford-Horsham road.  They are pretty well on the parish boundary between Slinford and Warnham.  Rapkyns is one of them associated with John (m Sarah Stanford) and I left myself a note that it passed from "Robert" (which one) to Johns son John.  Another one nearby is Town House farm, which I'm pretty sure I've seen mentioned but can't trace now (I think it was a Thomas or Francis)

While that line of Charmans seems to have concentrated on that area, my own line of Charmans held farms between Warnham and Oakwood Hill on the A29 Bognor Road  Its NW of Warnham, whilst the other farms are SW of Warnham. They are only about 2-3 miles apart so its not much to go on. 

None of this is enough to prove anything but when I've tried to unscramble these early Charmans, these were my guides.

Regards, Colin Charman


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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: CHARMAN one name study
« on: Friday 08 May 20 07:37 BST (UK)  »
Hi, about Edward Charman b 1730.

After a lot of digging, I concluded that Sefton Charman (bap 1730 Slinfold) was known as Edward Charman for the rest of his life.

I have no evidence for this except that theres no trace of Sefton after his baptism, and there is plenty to confirm that John & Mary had a son known as Edward, who passed his mothers name on to his son Sefton.

John Charman (marr to Mary Sefton) had a brother Edward born in 1702 so its reasonable to think that he may have passed the name onto his son.

John and Mary don't seem to have applied the normal convention for naming their children but they were nodding to it by baptising Sefton. Its a little surprising that all their childrens names came from the Charman side and that they didnt honour Mary Seftons parents Joseph & Abigail.

It would be nice to find some evidence that I have this right but I don't think thats going to happen.

Regards, Colin Charman
(email: colin.charman@gmail.com)

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Australia / Re: Vic/Tas Lookup please - Leslie Sinclair HADFIELD
« on: Thursday 02 May 19 12:55 BST (UK)  »
Here I am back on Rootschat after a few years away collating a tidal wave of newly diditised records that have appeared on Ancestry/Findmypast. I've not seen any notifications from Rootschat so I'll have to work out why!

The story of Tessie Charman being involved with someone in an australian circus family sounds fascinating - so far I've not found any record of Charmans in the circus.

I have a copy of my tree in ancestry, which contains everything I've accumulated about the Charmans. If you want a looksee, contact me (somehow) and I'll be glad to set it up. 

Regards, Colin Charman

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Shropshire / Re: What has happened to the Charman family?
« on: Thursday 02 May 19 12:41 BST (UK)  »
The Charman family in Ludlow were also regularly recorded as Charmer - I simply don't know which is the correct spelling.  They may have been a splinter from the Charman family around Solihull/Redditch or a more-distant splinter from the Sussex/Surrey charmans - or not really Charmans at all!

I've included them in my one-name study of the Charmans, but if you want to follow them, you have to look under both names.

Some of them migrated to Cannock, Staffordshire - eg John CHarman/Charmer born Ludlow in 1931, who was recorded as John Chalmer in the 1911 census. He was married to Jane Price 28 Oct 1860 in Ludlow.

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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: CHARMAN one name study
« on: Tuesday 11 October 16 12:54 BST (UK)  »
I haven't seen that deposition book - is it accessible at Chichester?

The deduced date of 1579 for that John Charman fits with the son of John Charman and Ann Boorer - presumably Thomas Borer was Ann Borers brother. 

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