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One Name Studies: N to S / Re: Swinney
« on: Saturday 05 December 09 08:08 GMT (UK)  »
Could you give a bit more info.  My Swinney/Melia or Malley family were living North/South Shields. 

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Banffshire / Re: 1871 census look up please - Farquhar
« on: Tuesday 07 April 09 09:33 BST (UK)  »
My ancestors include Farquhar families of Portsoy.  I haven't come across the names you have mentioned but maybe there is a connection.  The person with most info on Farquhar's of Portsoy is GDub71.  I will let him know about your search. 

Ditsy

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Northumberland / Re: claims to be german but isn't - why?
« on: Tuesday 03 March 09 19:21 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks again Michael, I certainly would appreciate any help.  As for me writing a best seller, I think it highly unlikely considering the time it takes me to compose replies on here, and the errors I make with dates ::).   Mind you I think you might be right, in the end I will probably just have to let it go :'(

Regards
Helen

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Northumberland / Re: claims to be german but isn't - why?
« on: Tuesday 03 March 09 18:10 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks again Michael,
Sorry about the error, to clarify:
Henry and Catherine married 18th January 1845
Elizabeth born 31st October 1845.  Registered as Elizabeth Ann, born Church Street.  Father's address also Church Street.  Birth registered 5th November 1845.
Unfortunately they are not original certificates but hand written copies.

Helen

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Northumberland / Re: claims to be german but isn't - why?
« on: Tuesday 03 March 09 14:29 GMT (UK)  »
oh that's interesting.  I suppose if she was asked 'where do you come from' as opposed to where were you born, I suppose it's feasible she could answer Germany.  Mind you her mother's family were from Northumberland which takes me back to asking why choose your father's heritage.  Isn't it amazing how such a little piece of information can really irritate you and I can't seem to let it go.

Thanks,
Helen

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Northumberland / Re: claims to be german but isn't - why?
« on: Tuesday 03 March 09 14:09 GMT (UK)  »
I have just found Elizabeth's birth certificate.  Parents married October 1845, Elizabeth born nine months later.  Whilst he signed marriage cert,  birth cert. only has Mark X for his signature.  Puzzling.
Elizabeth born at Church Street which is address given for Father Henry, District Gateshead.

Helen

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Northumberland / Re: claims to be german but isn't - why?
« on: Tuesday 03 March 09 13:39 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Michael, you really are very helpful.  Mar. cert. shows they were indeed bachelor and spinster of Tynemouth parish.  It states marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Tynemouth, I take it that would be Christ Church.  Their witnesses were Robert Davison and James Pye.  Names I haven't come across before.  Is it unusual to have two male witnesses?  I like the info about the Prussians, very interesting, helps put it into context.  Thanks also for the info about the Tyne.  Never even crossed my mind that people as well as goods were being transported to and fro overseas... Duh!!! apart from going North Shields to South Shields that is  :-[

Where would I find baptism records, would they be available on line?

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Northumberland / Re: claims to be german but isn't - why?
« on: Tuesday 03 March 09 08:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Michael,
Yes you have got it spot on.  I got Henry and Catherine's marriage cert, yesterday. Married January 1845, Tynemouth Parish.  It shows his occupation as engineman and same for his father Christian Gillirt.  He signed certificate whereas Catherine just gave her mark.  First rellie I have had from that time who was literate.  Was it usual in  those times for people to travel back and forward overseas?  Unfortunately the certificate doesn't show where they were living.  Do you know if census addresses are affluent areas i.e. Croft Street, Howdon - Reken Dyke Lane, Westoe.  When his daughter Catherine married (1896) her address was Charlotte Street, North Shields.

Helen :)

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Northumberland / Re: claims to be german but isn't - why?
« on: Monday 02 March 09 22:52 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry for the delay and thanks for your replies.  Her name is Elizabeth Ann Gillert born 31.10.1845, Gateshead.  Her Father was Heindrick Gellert, later changed to Henry Gallard/Gillert/Gilbert.   1841 census shows he was born Foreign Parts.  1851 shows Br. subject, Germany.  1861 shows Prussia.  1871 shows Naturalizee, Germany.
1851 and 1861 census show Elizabeth born Gateshead.

Elizabeth's place of birth on census changes after she is married to Robert Preston.  1871,1891 and 1901 census show she was born Germany.  In fact the 1871 census even gives city Munel/Munich, Germany.  Only the 1881 census shows her place of birth as South Shields.

Elizabeth was Heindrick's first born child.  His other 4 children born Howdon or South Shields.
Am I missing something here?  I haven't actually seen Elizabeth's birth certificate, I was given the information by someone.  Could it be possible she was born Germany and birth registered here???
Sorry if this is long winded.

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