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Kent / Re: JENKINS Licensee of The Prospect Inn/Hotel 1792
« on: Sunday 31 May 20 21:30 BST (UK)  »
Thanks again  :)

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Kent / Re: JENKINS Licensee of The Prospect Inn/Hotel 1792
« on: Sunday 31 May 20 20:22 BST (UK)  »
Hi Hanes teulu and thanks so much for this interesting piece of information. Where did you find it if you don’t mind me asking? Is it on the British Newspaper Archive? Would love to read more about it!

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Kent / Re: JENKINS Licensee of The Prospect Inn/Hotel 1792
« on: Wednesday 27 May 20 22:13 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for looking this up for me and what a find! All those lovely siblings to track forward in the census records and see if any landed up in Birmingham to support the theory that this is in fact my William Jenkins. Honestly this line of enquiry has been dead for 10 years and suddenly there’s a glimmer of an opening. Much appreciated Chempat - you’re a star!!

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Kent / JENKINS Licensee of The Prospect Inn/Hotel 1792
« on: Tuesday 26 May 20 22:04 BST (UK)  »
Hi there, this is a new line of enquiry for me with my JENKINS line so my first time on this board. 

My Jenkins line were mainly based in Birmingham and the ancestor I am interested in and have drawn a blank with is WILLIAM JENKINS b. circa 1800.

Until last week all I knew was that he was 'Not of the County' in the 1841 CS he appeared on in Birmingham, living with his wife ELIZABETH nee YARDLEY and their children. I found a possible marriage between an Elizabeth Yardley and a William JENKINS  in York St Margarets in 1830 which I was always suspicious of because it was so far from Birmingham.

I have his death certificate from 1849 where he died (buried Birmingham St Bartholemews) just before his last child was born. Via the wonders of Ancestry DNA I have had contact with a JENKINS descendent who is in possession of the JENKINS family bible transported to Toronto by the elderly, widowed Elizabeth Jenkins in the 1870s. I am so excited by this discovery! I have looked for her burial but had no clue that she emigrated to Canada in her late 60s so this is a huge breakthrough.

I am awaiting some scans of the bible but it would appear that it is written in it that  WILLIAM JENKINS was born in 1799 in St Johns parish Margate, Kent and was born in the Prospect Hotel in Zion place.  This is a major breakthrough after 10 years of family history research.

I immediately did some quick research online and found that in 1792 the Licensee of this property was a John JENKINS. I am obviously excited by this but not getting too excited because Jenkins was as common a surname in Kent as it appears to be in Birmingham.

I was just wondering what I should do next. I looked to see if there were parish records online and it appears that there might be some on Find my Past.  I am not a subscriber to this site and wondered whether it would be worth my while asking for a Look Up. I wanted to introduce myself on this board first. I am just wondering whether there were any other records I could be looking up, Are there local Kent that might have further details on Licensees?  My local library (in Glasgow) provides free access to the British Newspaper Archive and I would love to explore this and see if there are any local papers online from this period. Unfortunately the access is only provided on site so I won't be accessing that until the libraries open again.

Any help or advice on where I should take my research next would be gratefully received!

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Yes, rosie99, I ordered up the certificate for Thomas and he is down as a Porter on this. I also had some help about 10 years ago with someone who looked up christenings and burials in St Martins in Birmingham. The occupation is consistently that of a Porter and they are living in the Deritend/Digbeth area of Birmingham city centre.

Thanks claire for having a look at FindmyPast. Sad that there aren't any more clues to be had from this marriage record. Nevermind.

I have just sent off for a death certificate for a WILLIAM JENKINS from 1849 who was living at Great Colmore Street. The age fits and this would have been after the birth of their last child and before Elizabeth became a widow on the 1851 census. I'm not sure whether this will give any other information of use but thought it worth a last punt!

Thanks, as always, to the helpful Rootschat community :)

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Hello there, first time on the Yorkshire boards for me. I have found a marriage for my ancestor WILLIAM JENKINS who, from Census records, was born in approximately 1801.  He was married to an ELIZABETH JENKINS and they lived and had their family in and around the Birmingham/Walsall area and were heavily involved in the Saddlery industry.  The only record I have of William Jenkins on the census is in the 1841 one where the family are living in Aston and he has said 'No'  as to 'whether born in same county'. So he wasn't born in Warwickshire but no clue as to where he was born. He is dead by the 1851 Census. I've found a burial for a William Jenkins in 1849 in St Bartholemew's in Birmingham and am going to do some digging around that date

 I have found a marriage between a WILLIAM JENKINS and an ELIZABETH YARDLEY that took place on 20 Jun 1831 at ST MARGARET'S, YORK. This was gleaned from familysearch.org.

My question is this. If I were to get access to the parish record itself would it give me any other information such as the names of both sets of parents? I'm confused as to how the York connection has come about (if, indeed, this is my ancestor's marriage). William's occupation was that of a railway porter and the family mythology was that he hailed from Wales which may be the case.

ELIZABETH YARDLEY definitely hails from Birmingham.

Any advice will be gratefully received!

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: Look up Request St Phillips Birmingham - JENKINS
« on: Wednesday 25 January 17 23:53 GMT (UK)  »
Once again thank you Jim1 - an absolute wealth of info there, much appreciated. I don't think I am going to be able to pin this down with any certainty - why oh why was the father's name not entered on my great grandfather's marriage entry in the register? And like you and others have said, it seemed to happen to spate of entries during this period. Ah well - the names and occupations in this other family don't marry up so well but we'll never know now. I will revisit again but the Jenkins are proving frustratingly elusive!

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: Look up Request St Phillips Birmingham - JENKINS
« on: Sunday 22 January 17 22:04 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jim1,
Thanks for all that. You were actually the person who helped me out back in 2008 and supplied me with some useful information. I came to this afresh again after all these years and discovered the 'other' John Jenkins on IGI and realised that there were no guarantees the other John which I had found in the above mentioned census records of 1841 and 1851 was 'mine'. So I am going back over things. Back in 2008 I too had reached the brickwall of having an Elizabeth Yardley and a William Jenkins marrying in York - couldn't take it any further. That's why I am looking at this John Jenkins who was baptised in St Phillips - infuriatingly with no father named in the record! I thought maybe there was another trail to follow.

Will the marriage certificate I get from GRO for John Jenkins and Catherine Slaney be based on the records you've referred to - is there any danger the father's name will be on that or were the details lifted directly from the records you are looking at?

Thanks once again for your help.

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Warwickshire Lookup Requests / Re: Look up Request St Phillips Birmingham - JENKINS
« on: Saturday 21 January 17 01:52 GMT (UK)  »
Of course you're right Carole. I'm getting ahead of myself in the excitement of picking this all up again and discovering this 'other' John Jenkins  :-[ Sorry Claire but thank you for going to the trouble to look
that up for me and type it out. I will report back and let you know the outcome of seeing the marriage certificate when it arrives.

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