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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« on: Tuesday 12 January 21 12:02 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Rowan Tree on Sunday 03 January 21 15:19 GMT (UK)
I've just ordered the 1863 Amy Isadore Sutcliffe birth certificate. Fingers crossed it'll help either rule in, or conclusively rule out this Amy as the other Amy's daughter.
The birth certificate has arrived! This is what we've got;

14th May 1863
11 Trafford Terrace, Moss Lane, Hulme

Amy Isadore - Girl

Father: John Sutcliffe - Mariner

Mother: Amy Sutcliffe formerly Rothwell

Informant: John Sutcliffe, Father, 11 Trafford Terrace, Moss Lane, Hulme.

Registered: 10th June 1863

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« on: Sunday 03 January 21 15:19 GMT (UK)  »
I've just ordered the 1863 Amy Isadore Sutcliffe birth certificate. Fingers crossed it'll help either rule in, or conclusively rule out this Amy as the other Amy's daughter.

Looking forward to posting the details off the certificate  :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« on: Saturday 02 January 21 22:34 GMT (UK)  »
I'm still very thankful for people's posts and help.

I'm sorry I'm not being of more help myself.

It is a tricky one but more information is being gradually teased out.

I've not personally seen evidence of John Sutcliffe being in prison, just Amy Sutcliffe.

I've not yet found any hints of a marriage for John and Amy, or any death or census entry for John. I'd considered John and Amy were never legally married, or Amy was a bigamist...

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« on: Friday 01 January 21 22:18 GMT (UK)  »
It's the older of the two Amy's who was on her 2nd marriage with William Laycock (1st marriage to John Sutcliffe).

I believe the younger of the two Amy's only married once and this was to William Sarginson.

If the two Amy's aren't mother and daughter, and the mother's maiden name suggests they're not, then that's a big and frustrating coincidence. Hmmm. Not sure what to do with this. I'm finding the different pieces of evidence contradictory. On one hand, it looks like the two Amy's are mother and daughter (the baptism and prison record seems to point in this direction) but on the other hand, the maiden name of Rothwell plus the 1844 Hannah Rothwell marriage seem to say otherwise.

 :-\

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« on: Friday 01 January 21 14:21 GMT (UK)  »
Marriage: 3 July 1887 St Clement, Salford, Lancashire
William Sarginson - 24, Miller, Bachelor, 62 Nashville Street
Amy Isidora Sutcliffe - 23, Spinster, 62 Nashville Street
Groom's Father: Thomas Sarginson, Mill Wright
Bride's Father: John Sutcliffe, Lime Burner
Witness: Adam Smith and Sarah Ann Smith
Married by Banns
Notes Bride signed Amy Isadora

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« on: Friday 01 January 21 14:04 GMT (UK)  »
It looks like the younger Amy married a William SARGINSON;

1887 - Q3
Salford
Amy Isadora Sutcliffe to William Sarginson

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« on: Friday 01 January 21 13:46 GMT (UK)  »
Loving all these brilliant finds. I'm racing to plug my laptop in so I can get tree updating  :D

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« on: Friday 01 January 21 13:43 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: ShaunJ on Friday 01 January 21 13:12 GMT (UK)
If it is Delmar, that means "of the sea" !
No way! You couldn't make it up! Love it  :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Marriage Cert. Bride's Father?
« on: Friday 01 January 21 13:43 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: roopat on Friday 01 January 21 13:10 GMT (UK)
If she was born at sea maybe her father was a mariner at the time or foreign, hence the possible name beginning DE something..

In my town which used to be a busy port, many children I taught had Portuguese fathers who sailed in regularly on the cargo boats. Some settled here.
Thanks, Pat - this is very interesting  :)

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