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London and Middlesex / Re: Wrong baptism all along.
« on: Monday 07 June 21 21:47 BST (UK)  »
My Cressé/Cressee ancestors were also in Bethnal Green around the same time but they moved about a bit too.

David Cressé (a Weaver) for example was christened in Spitalfields, married in Portsmouth, then had his first child with his wife in Portsea before moving to Bethnal Green about 1748/9. By 1759 he had his son George christened at St. Botolph Bishopsgate, London before finally settling down in Edmonton where he died in 1787.

His son David Cressé/Cressey was born in Bethnal Green, married in Shoreditch and then moved to Winchmore Hill/Edmonton where he died in 1838.

My Hold family who married into the Cressé (David above's sister Hannah Cressé) also ended up in Winchmore Hill/Edmonton.

However the elder David Cressé's brother Isaac Cressé ended up in Jamaica whilst two of David Cressé Junior's daughters ended up married to brothers of the Winter family one of whom ended up in Ceylon/Sri Lanka.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Wrong baptism all along.
« on: Thursday 03 June 21 00:09 BST (UK)  »
Evening Coombs,

I've now read the whole thread and it has allowed me to re-assess my own Aubé/Aubers a bit. I am unsure why I linked my David Aubé/Auber as the son of Jacques Aubé and Magdelaine Moutier, as I have no dates for David. All I know is he apparently married Jeanne Riviere (I have no further information about her).

David and Jeanne had two daughters, viz.

1. Jeanne Aubé, of Caen. She married Jean Le Sage/Lesage, of Caen on 19 July 1710 at Threadneedle Street. They had at least 3 known children.
2. Louise Aubé, of Caen (my ancestor). She married Louis Cressé (born 1 June 1689, chr. 1 Dec. 1689, Threadneedle Street) on 8 August 1714, Chapel of the Hospital, Threadneedle Street. They had at least 7 children.

I haven't seen David Aubé/Auber's name mentioned in this thread but as his two daughters were of Caen, then he could belong to the Beauville line, as I have in my tree.

I do not have any access to the Huguenot Society records, so there maybe further about David Aubé/Auber in there.

James

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London and Middlesex / Re: Wrong baptism all along.
« on: Wednesday 02 June 21 18:57 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: James R. Yeowell on Wednesday 02 June 21 17:27 BST (UK)
I also note mention of the Moncoutant contingent. If my research is correct, then I have a Jeanne Aubé (daughter of Jacques Aubé and Magdelaine Moutier above) marrying Daniel Michaux of Moncoutant and Poitou.

As noted elsewhere, Jeanne Aubé could also be the sister of Tobie.

It's difficult to unpick all the Aubés.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Wrong baptism all along.
« on: Wednesday 02 June 21 18:52 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: richarde1979 on Wednesday 03 November 10 10:56 GMT (UK)
Also at the marriage of Tobie's sister in 1708, one of the witnesses was a  Daniel Micheaux/Michaud of Moncoutant. He also married an Aube, Jean, possible another of Tobie's sisters. She gives her place of origin as 'Beau' in the Il-de-France. There are a couple of place names Beauvais and Beaurepais, which are just south of Plessis-Mornay which she may be referring to.

As mentioned in my other comment, this is Beauville, in Basse Normandie.

However the only Beauville I've found is in Lot-et-Garonne, which is not in Normandie.

Edit: it could also be Deauville in Calvados.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deauville

As other Aubé's seem to be from Caen, it'd make sense if Beauville was in fact near Caen.

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Sussex / Re: Benjamin Hall of Buxted Lodge
« on: Wednesday 02 June 21 18:30 BST (UK)  »
For your notes:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=iBQvAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA360&lpg=PA360&dq=Joseph+Noakes+Mourilyan&source=bl&ots=KGPafh5AfI&sig=ACfU3U35Un4ob5Hdwn8Nz33giyPpLWWePw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwimuq7suvnwAhUKnhQKHeoODp0Q6AEwEnoECBIQAw#v=onepage&q=Joseph%20Noakes%20Mourilyan&f=false

This is Joseph Noakes Mourilyan's notice of becoming an Attorney in 1833. He was assigned to William Bertram Bishop, of 2 Serjeant's Inn, so it seems he and Joseph were acquainted in 1833.

Of note is Joseph Noakes Mourilyan's father John Mourilyan was also a Solicitor but he died aged 27 in 1811.

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Sussex / Re: Benjamin Hall of Buxted Lodge
« on: Wednesday 02 June 21 18:09 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: wurding on Saturday 29 May 21 10:58 BST (UK)

Do you know what year Benjamin Hall, John Mourilyan and William Bertram Bishop were listed at Gray's Inn?

I found reference here, from 1841: http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/api/collection/p16445coll4/id/26057/download

There's also reference here to what appears to be the passing of an examination by George James Bowyer (under Joseph Noakes Mourilyan) and Nicholas Henry Rowsell (son of John Thomas Rowsell and under both William Bertram Bishop and Benjamin Hall) at Trinity Term 1845: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=T_0uAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA223&lpg=PA223&dq=William+Bertram+Bishop+verulam&source=bl&ots=IRj8e-RLBe&sig=ACfU3U0TOiPHGPjDQJXVvdzk5RrkbA0Ixw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiBi_LltfnwAhUQnhQKHQrzD-cQ6AEwA3oECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=William%20Bertram%20Bishop%20verulam&f=false

This also lists Benjamin Hall as also of Baxter, Sussex.

I presume therefore that by 1845, Hall, Bishop and Mourilyan had dissolved and it was now Bishop and Hall. Although W. B. Bishop was still operating out of 2 Verulam Buildings, Gray's Inn.

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Sussex / Re: Benjamin Hall of Buxted Lodge
« on: Wednesday 02 June 21 17:37 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Watson on Saturday 29 May 21 11:03 BST (UK)
I'm not sure James' reason for preferring Gray's Inn is valid, since, by a similar argument, Inner Temple and Lincoln's Inn are also mentioned above!  The Gray's Inn admission register is on-line, and could easily be checked.

I concur. I realised after I posted that there were references to Inner Temple and Lincoln's Inn as well.

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London and Middlesex / Re: Wrong baptism all along.
« on: Wednesday 02 June 21 17:27 BST (UK)  »
Greetings everyone.

I wanted to ask whether these Aubé are related my own Aubé?

I'm a descendant of Jacques Aubé, of Beauville, Basse Normandie and his wife Magdelaine Moutier.

It was via their son David Aubé/Auber and his wife Jeanne Riviere's daughter Louise Aubé (born circa 1693) that I link in.

Louise Aubé married Louis Cressé (the family had various spellings of the name including Cresset) on 8 August 1714. Louis Cressé was actually born in London on 1 June 1689 but his father was Daniel Cressé (born 1651 in Paris and died about 1714 in London).

Any assistance linking my Aubé's (if they are indeed related) to those mentioned in this thread would be welcome.

I also note mention of the Moncoutant contingent. If my research is correct, then I have a Jeanne Aubé (daughter of Jacques Aubé and Magdelaine Moutier above) marrying Daniel Michaux of Moncoutant and Poitou.

Best regards,

James

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Other Countries / Re: Day family, Antigua and Sierre Leone
« on: Saturday 29 May 21 04:42 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Downcraig on Sunday 28 April 19 21:38 BST (UK)
John Day b. 1773 - d. 1777 cannot be correct as that makes him only 4 years old.

Downcraig, I think 1773 should read 1733, as that's the christening year I have for John Day, of Antigua. This would also fit with my long-held hunch that John Day, of Antigua was the son of John Day (the wax chandler) and Lydia and was christened 12 August 1733, at St. James Garlickhithe, London, as has been mentioned in a different thread previously.

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