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Not much more information than that really. In the burial registers of St Mary's church on 17th July 1802 is listed "John Kisby" and on 8th Feb 1804 is listed "Ann KISBY - w". The other burials in that period relate to the children of John and Mary Kisby of Whittlesey (I think you mentioned them above) - their son John was still alive in the 1850s, as far as I know their only child that survived to adulthood - so the burial of John Kisby doesn't refer to him.

Certainly Wisbech is within easier travelling distance to Whittlesey than London. It will be interesting to know if John and Anne (Tyars) Kisby christened children in Wisbech. From memory, the Wisbech church registers were not available on line, I think they were accessible at the local history centre in Wisbech. Though I've managed to visit Whittlesey, Coates, March and Spalding in the past, I haven't got as far as Wisbech yet (I live in Cardiff, which is a long trek).

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Late to the party here, sorry, but interesting to see Emmanuel Kisby come up here! Are you a descendant of Emmanuel and Jane, Spencer?

Having studied the Kisbys in Whittlesey and Coates for over 20 years, my hunch is Emmanuel's parents may be John and Ann Kisby, who baptised a son Levi Kisby on 20 Oct 1799 in St Mary's Church, Whittlesey. I have never found a baptism record for Emmanuel, but maybe John and Ann had moved into the area? Levi named his first son John, his second son Robert (after the in-law) and his third son Emanuel.

A burial of a John Kisby is recorded in Whittlesey in 1802 and a burial of an Ann Kisby, widow, is recorded in 1804. These may be the same John and Ann, but the priest at St Mary's church wasn't exactly generous with his information in that period, so difficult to conclusively prove.

There was also a William Kisby, born circa 1795, living with his family in the area at the time of the 1841 census. His first three sons were named John, William and Levi. Possibly (but no proof) William was another brother of Levi (1799) and therefore a son of John/Ann. I believe William and family emigrated to Illinois, USA in the 1840s - coincidentally (or maybe not) Levi (1799)'s children Emanuel, Levi and Sarah emigrated to Illinois in the early 1850s. Perhaps they were following their uncle William, who knows?

Anyway, hope that helps somewhat.

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One Name Studies: H to M / Re: KISBY, All (GOONS #5000)
« on: Saturday 15 August 15 13:45 BST (UK)  »
Important update - the Kisby/ee website has been relocated and can now be found at:

http://kisby.one-name.net

...it's a work in progress, after the old site of 15 years was removed by my old website host

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Cambridgeshire / Re: Taylor - Whittlesey
« on: Tuesday 10 January 12 01:50 GMT (UK)  »
Well spotted! Actually I've looked on 1911.co.uk, it seems John and Ellen had a 3 year old boy called John William also in the household in April 1911. Maybe he died young.

The marriage of John William TAYLOR and Ellen MEARS appears in the St Andrews parish register on July 9, 1902. He was a fitter, from Kings Dyke. She was daughter of a Whittlesey labourer.


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Cambridgeshire / Re: Taylor - Whittlesey
« on: Monday 09 January 12 04:21 GMT (UK)  »
Have you tried the Whittlesey Museum? They used to have a good archive of old photos.

On FreeBMD the only William J TAYLOR dying in Cambs around that time is in 1940, Cambridge, aged 65.

A William TAYLOR dies in Whittlesey in January 1940 - he is buried on 10 January at St Andrews, the parish register says he lived at 12 Barr Street.

Did the Taylors actually live there? Or were they simply the owners, living elsewhere and renting it to someone else?

Elsie Mary TAYLOR was born in 1910 (and married in 1932) by the looks of it. Have you checked the 1911 Census records?

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The Common Room / Re: Have a stab at this!
« on: Sunday 13 November 11 17:16 GMT (UK)  »
£3000 sounds like a substantial amount of money for 1970! My parents bought a 4 bedroom house in 1966 for £3400!

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Glamorganshire / Re: cadoxton terrace, cadoxton neath
« on: Sunday 23 October 11 22:08 BST (UK)  »
I received the deeds of my own small terraced house in South Wales and to my disappointment, because the house was owned by corporate landlords (and rented out) until 1966, most of the previous occupants were not listed. You may find the same thing applies to a small terraced house in Cadoxton. Land owners, workers housing charities etc. were all busy building housing for rent to the growing population.

As for looking for information around 1910/12, you always have the 1911 Census. Street names and house numbers were becoming fairly permanent during the C20th so, with luck, your street name and hous number will be the same as it is today.

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The Common Room / Re: Getting back to the 17th Century
« on: Sunday 23 October 11 21:57 BST (UK)  »
Yes, it might be stating the obvious, but parish registers in England and Wales can date from the mid-16th century and, from the early 1600's they were required to be copied to the local bishop (so you have twice the chance of finding surviving records).

All the same, it definitely helps if your ancestors had unusual surnames or were wealthy enough to leave wills!

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The Common Room / Re: Lost 5 babies all younger than 1yr
« on: Sunday 23 October 11 14:01 BST (UK)  »
Apparently, if 2 or 3 children die in succession at a young age it can be a sign of syphillis infection (from the parents). However, in the middle of a festering city there are many other things that can take a child so I doubt syphillis was a major contributor in your instance. My own great-great grandparents lived in relative rural bliss but lost 3 of their children in succession, which raises my suspicions of the cause!

The church of St Andrew's Undershaft is probably the only original building left in that part of London. It is immediately adjacent to the iconic "Gherkin" tower in the financial heart of the modern city.

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